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Post by Paulus17 on Nov 7, 2018 9:32:22 GMT
OK folks so Mrs P has been using the Rav since Saturday but yesterday she said it started to cut out when stopping and she seemed to be accelerating and the car was taking time to build up speed while the engine was revving away. Anyway to cut a long story short it seems the clutch is cream crackered :yes: it's now in a garage thanks to my brothers mate as it needs to be up on ramps to get at the clutch and we should have it back by the weekend all been well and if he doesn't find owt else wrong with it.  I had already ordered the pinion seal from Kingo to get that done but seems it can be done while the clutch is off. So can a clutch go that quick it seemed fine when we test drove it and at the weekend when we took it out, is there any adjustment on these clutches? |
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Post by Hoovie on Nov 7, 2018 10:18:24 GMT
Answer to second question.... I say yes. On the swift once I drove home from a show we were at - distance of 17 mi!es. No problems. Next morning drove back to show .. within a few miles engine revving away but speed not building at all  got there but the RAC brought the car back again. |
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Post by philip42h on Nov 7, 2018 12:10:45 GMT
Did you buy it from a dealer or privately? It looks so shiny I assumed a dealer ... Did it not have some limited warranty?
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Post by Paulus17 on Nov 7, 2018 12:38:23 GMT
Answer to second question.... I say yes. On the swift once I drove home from a show we were at - distance of 17 mi!es. No problems. Next morning drove back to show .. within a few miles engine revving away but speed not building at all  got there but the RAC brought the car back again. OK thank you David, so would the previous owner of known about it do you think and reason for selling?? |
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Post by Paulus17 on Nov 7, 2018 12:43:27 GMT
Did you buy it from a dealer or privately? It looks so shiny I assumed a dealer ... Did it not have some limited warranty? No Philip it was a private sale who had owned the car for the last so many years as it was swapped between father and daughter a few times, we were told?? According to what history there is it was originally from BKs part of the world then bought from another dealer up north then bought down south. Anyhoo, Kingo has the pinion seal in now so I might have it tomorrow or Friday all been well. |
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Post by Hoovie on Nov 7, 2018 20:12:22 GMT
Answer to second question.... I say yes. On the swift once I drove home from a show we were at - distance of 17 mi!es. No problems. Next morning drove back to show .. within a few miles engine revving away but speed not building at all got there but the RAC brought the car back again. OK thank you David, so would the previous owner of known about it do you think and reason for selling?? Who knows. It's possible but quite possible luck of the draw. My VW T5 had a recommendation for a new DMF and Clutch when I bought it - but that was 30,000 miles earlier and never done (which I knew). Just saying these are never clear-cut and even noticeable sometimes until it actually really goes. |
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Post by Paulus17 on Nov 8, 2018 9:55:46 GMT
OK thank you David, so would the previous owner of known about it do you think and reason for selling?? Who knows. It's possible but quite possible luck of the draw. My VW T5 had a recommendation for a new DMF and Clutch when I bought it - but that was 30,000 miles earlier and never done (which I knew). Just saying these are never clear-cut and even noticeable sometimes until it actually really goes. Yes I guess so David so just gonna have to suck it up and get on with it now we have it, I just hope nothing else is majorly wrong with it and turns into a money pit :no: |
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Post by charliefarlie on Nov 8, 2018 18:36:40 GMT
Paul did you load test the clutch when you checked the car out ?
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Post by Paulus17 on Nov 8, 2018 19:14:02 GMT
Paul did you load test the clutch when you checked the car out ? Yes Charlie I did while it was on the drive and as I say all seemed fine. The owner didn't know if the clutch had been changed as I asked and just said it drives lovely, which it seemed to do, obviously I couldn't drive it so had to take his and Mrs Ps word. The clutch is out now and have been told it looks like the original one so not bad if it is after 96k miles  and the seal has arrived this morning from Kingo so great service once again from John, so that will be taken round tomorrow and hopefully will be able to pick it up Saturday morning all been well :yes: |
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Post by charliefarlie on Nov 8, 2018 20:11:55 GMT
Paul did you load test the clutch when you checked the car out ? Yes Charlie I did while it was on the drive and as I say all seemed fine. The owner didn't know if the clutch had been changed as I asked and just said it drives lovely, which it seemed to do, obviously I couldn't drive it so had to take his and Mrs Ps word. The clutch is out now and have been told it looks like the original one so not bad if it is after 96k miles  and the seal has arrived this morning from Kingo so great service once again from John, so that will be taken round tomorrow and hopefully will be able to pick it up Saturday morning all been well  When you say you did it on the drive .... did you drive the car ? if you load tested it and it didn’t slip then the previous owner could not have known it was on the way out... |
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Post by Paulus17 on Nov 8, 2018 21:21:10 GMT
Yes Charlie I did while it was on the drive and as I say all seemed fine. The owner didn't know if the clutch had been changed as I asked and just said it drives lovely, which it seemed to do, obviously I couldn't drive it so had to take his and Mrs Ps word. The clutch is out now and have been told it looks like the original one so not bad if it is after 96k miles and the seal has arrived this morning from Kingo so great service once again from John, so that will be taken round tomorrow and hopefully will be able to pick it up Saturday morning all been well When you say you did it on the drive .... did you drive the car ? if you load tested it and it didn’t slip then the previous owner could not have known it was on the way out... That is true Charlie hence why I asked if these clutches are adjustable but I don't think they are from what I have found out since?? |
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Post by Hoovie on Nov 8, 2018 22:04:05 GMT
I think as things gradually wear on a car, the driver subconsiously compensates for them (think how often you notice something on a car that the owners has never seen) and is is - IMO - very very likely that even if something was not right, the owner just wouldn't know. And just thinking of the Green RAV4 I bought - the owner knew of no problems.... I saw no problems (I missed the rusty bits ), but I had over £1,000 worth of repairs needed in 1,000 miles of ownership - AC went totally for one - but it was good on the test drive and super cold. so who would know? Just bad luck and part of buying an old vehicle |
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Post by Paulus17 on Nov 8, 2018 22:48:29 GMT
I think as things gradually wear on a car, the driver subconsiously compensates for them (think how often you notice something on a car that the owners has never seen) and is is - IMO - very very likely that even if something was not right, the owner just wouldn't know. And just thinking of the Green RAV4 I bought - the owner knew of no problems.... I saw no problems (I missed the rusty bits ), but I had over £1,000 worth of repairs needed in 1,000 miles of ownership - AC went totally for one - but it was good on the test drive and super cold. so who would know? Just bad luck and part of buying an old vehicle Yes David I agree and it's just one of those things I suppose as you say gotta expect it on an older car and was prepared to spend some money on it but wasn't expecting the insurance to be so high and the clutch going just capped it all. My thinking on the clutch was that it must have been changed at some point so was expecting it to last well over the 100k miles but if it was the original clutch it's done well, luckily we got the clutch at mates rates and also the fitting so it hasn't worked out too badly in the end but will see when we pick it up Saturday. Can I ask what rust problems you had on that green Rav as I thought it was a nice motor?? |
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Post by Hoovie on Nov 8, 2018 23:00:58 GMT
it was generally very rusty underneath. Bodywork was super so I didn't really check that carefully (I think it is down to the area as we bought a local V reg 306 in 2010 which was terrible underneath as well).
The final straw that did for me was the first time I drove it after getting the AC repaired was to get a takeaway from the local town 5 miles away - exhaust fell down on way home as the hanger had rusted away. Repaired that with some metal sheet and rivets and up for sale
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Post by Paulus17 on Nov 9, 2018 9:25:13 GMT
it was generally very rusty underneath. Bodywork was super so I didn't really check that carefully (I think it is down to the area as we bought a local V reg 306 in 2010 which was terrible underneath as well). The final straw that did for me was the first time I drove it after getting the AC repaired was to get a takeaway from the local town 5 miles away - exhaust fell down on way home as the hanger had rusted away. Repaired that with some metal sheet and rivets and up for sale Oh I didn't know that David I thought that green Rav you got was a good car. From what I have seen underneath Mrs Ps Rav it looks ok, I did go round it tapping and the only thing falling off was the black sealer that was on it and as mentioned in the other thread it does have a new exhaust fitted. The rear calipers look to be rusted badly and the front brakes might need replacing soon and apart from the pinion leak and now the clutch all seems ok, touch wood :yes: but will find out more next week when it goes in for an MOT. |
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got there but the RAC brought the car back again.
and the seal has arrived this morning from Kingo so great service once again from John, so that will be taken round tomorrow and hopefully will be able to pick it up Saturday morning all been well :yes: