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Post by clarki on Jan 15, 2020 8:29:59 GMT
So my ProKleen Karcher compatible snowfoam kit arrived yesterday.
Not something i've used before, so question is do you hose down the car first or spray the foam onto a dry car? Tutorials on you tube seem to be 50-50. Water isn't in short supply here so I wonder if that is a factor for some people. Also how long do you leave it on for, again opinions seems to differ. Does it depend on how dirty the car is or is more time of year.
Any other advice appreciated.
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Post by philip42h on Jan 15, 2020 8:51:22 GMT
Charlie gave instructions on here a while ago. Snowfoam goes onto a dry car - if it's wet the snowfoam will fall off rather than dwell and soften the dirt. Leave it to dwell for ten minutes or so and then pressure wash off.
Snowfoam is a pre-wash - so once you've snowfoamed you then have the car free from extraneous muck to shampoo and polish as you want.
Dilution is a matter of practice and experience - you'll want an inch or two of snowfoam liquid in the bottle, topped-up with water and then adjust the dosage rate at the gun to get a creamy foam that will dwell for the requisite ten minutes. Too wet and it will just run off; too solid and you'll risk stripping the wax and be 'wasting' the snowfoam.
For Charlie's contactless winter wash, add a cap full of shampoo to the snowfoam mix and call it a day once the car has been rinsed.
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Post by bigkev on Jan 15, 2020 8:55:22 GMT
Have now settled on Magifoam as suggested by Charlie yonks ago. It suggests you pre-wet / pre-rinse the car before foaming. Funnily enough, same applied to two previous foams I used in the past.
Does your kit include the Karcher plakky foam wand and plakky bottle....? Binned mine to a neighbour as foam was ultra thin, ultra fine, and the amount of Magifoam product it used was astonishful.
Dilution rate as Philip sez......in Glesga water, 7 or 8 to 1 was norm. Up here the water we make the BEST Speyside Malts from goes at 12 to 1, and always adding some car shampoo to the mix. Bonkers foam up here too from soap and shampoo......!
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Post by clarki on Jan 15, 2020 14:03:25 GMT
Thanks folks, looking forward to giving it a go on the little Yaris this weekend.
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Post by charliefarlie on Jan 15, 2020 17:09:20 GMT
If you pre wet the car the foam will not adhere and will slide off...... Some may say not but if your car has a polished surface it definitely will but if your car has a surface as rough as a bears arse then it will stick to even a pre wet car..
Magifoam is the best I’ve used and I’ve tried a few. Slightly more expensive but you use much less 👍👍👍
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Post by bigkev on Jan 15, 2020 18:03:36 GMT
Jag is smooth as a weanseez bum, Charlie, ceramicated too, but still I adhere to instructions and pre hose, mainly to remove cow pats up here......still the Magifoam clings and slides slowly, pulling the remaining grit with it. Then at this time of the year......all done........no hand wash.
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Post by shcm on Jan 15, 2020 20:56:29 GMT
but still I adhere to instructions and pre hose, ......still the Magifoam clings and slides slowly, Moi aussi. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Jan 15, 2020 21:23:49 GMT
Jag is smooth as a weanseez bum, Charlie, ceramicated too, but still I adhere to instructions and pre hose, mainly to remove cow pats up here......still the Magifoam clings and slides slowly, pulling the remaining grit with it. Then at this time of the year......all done........no hand wash. Errrrrrrrr Mate if foam is sticking to a pre wet car then how is the ceramic coating working ? Your too astute to need reminding that to strong a mix is damaging to your waxing or coatings but here’s how it works for Moi.... My IQ is the best waxed car we have. Well that and the MX5... Polished to the hilt and waxed with Colly 476. Washing is completely no touch. I don’t pre wet never have. Once foamed it slides off quickly. Too quickly some would say. Then it’s washed off with a broad spread from the lance on the Kranzle with the PSI set low. I get a spotless car with no spotting black streaks or remaining contamination. There are more tractors than cars out here and the cars get madly stupidly filthy. So we’re up against the same amount of s hit by the sounds of it. 👍👍👍 Whatever works for you old pal 👍👍👍👍👍👍 |
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Post by clarki on Jan 15, 2020 22:10:52 GMT
The Yaris is absolutely filthy, I mean awful. Getting on/off site sees to that. So will probably give it a jet wash first, maybe even at the local petrol station so I don't get all the crap over the driveway!!
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Post by bigkev on Jan 15, 2020 22:52:29 GMT
The Yaris is absolutely filthy, I mean awful. Getting on/off site sees to that. So will probably give it a jet wash first, maybe even at the local petrol station so I don't get all the crap over the driveway!! If you have a monoblock driveway......they call it Locbloc up here........you shouldnae be washing it on that anywayhowz.....! It removes the sand, and/or turns the sand unnerneef to quicksand, and the blocks collapsicate. If you’ve got tarmac, sawrite then......lol. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Jan 16, 2020 13:03:52 GMT
The Yaris is absolutely filthy, I mean awful. Getting on/off site sees to that. So will probably give it a jet wash first, maybe even at the local petrol station so I don't get all the crap over the driveway!! If you have a monoblock driveway......they call it Locbloc up here........you shouldnae be washing it on that anywayhowz.....! It removes the sand, and/or turns the sand unnerneef to quicksand, and the blocks collapsicate. If you’ve got tarmac, sawrite then......lol. Kev I’ve never had any problems at all with washing cars on block paving... If they are laid properly and tight washing isn’t going to make any odds. If they sink through water they ain’t been laid properly. 👍👍 |
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Post by clarki on Jan 16, 2020 14:46:19 GMT
The Yaris is absolutely filthy, I mean awful. Getting on/off site sees to that. So will probably give it a jet wash first, maybe even at the local petrol station so I don't get all the crap over the driveway!! If you have a monoblock driveway......they call it Locbloc up here........you shouldnae be washing it on that anywayhowz.....! It removes the sand, and/or turns the sand unnerneef to quicksand, and the blocks collapsicate. If you’ve got tarmac, sawrite then......lol. Here what you're saying but plenty of perforated land-drain and make-up under the driveway means no such issues. My business, so if I didn't get my own driveway right i'd be in deep trouble!! Do often wash it down out on the road first though, due to the amount of crap that comes off the car. It was so bad last time I felt a bit guilty hence maybe do it at the local jet wash next time. Poor Yaris :no: |
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Post by bigkev on Jan 16, 2020 19:31:56 GMT
If you have a monoblock driveway......they call it Locbloc up here........you shouldnae be washing it on that anywayhowz.....! It removes the sand, and/or turns the sand unnerneef to quicksand, and the blocks collapsicate. If you’ve got tarmac, sawrite then......lol. Kev I’ve never had any problems at all with washing cars on block paving... If they are laid properly and tight washing isn’t going to make any odds. If they sink through water they ain’t been laid properly. 👍👍 Much as I have a justifiably low opinion of the building trades and their shortcuts, Charlie, the usual up here is to use WAY TOO MUCH SAND to lay the blocks on, so regular car washing turned MANY driveways into quicksand and hellish amounts of failures and dips/wheel denting. As you say......IF done properly all well and good, but the same scum/arsehole builder, Persimmon, gave me a mortar mix laboratory/chemically proved to be 9 sand to 1 cement ffs.....! All had to be removed by angle grinder and replaced to a depth of 35mm........the mess cost me a new garden too.....! Mortar the bestvweed killer I have ever witnessed.......and grass killer.......and bushes..... The gates now open to all in the building trade to plead innocence.........my deafness shall be selective as usual........I had to work to stringent BS/ISO standards, and PAY for it to be implemented as an owner/director. Building trade, imho, is full of “that’s good enough for yer work” attitudinals. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Jan 16, 2020 20:33:37 GMT
Kev I’ve never had any problems at all with washing cars on block paving... If they are laid properly and tight washing isn’t going to make any odds. If they sink through water they ain’t been laid properly. 👍👍 Much as I have a justifiably low opinion of the building trades and their shortcuts, Charlie, the usual up here is to use WAY TOO MUCH SAND to lay the blocks on, so regular car washing turned MANY driveways into quicksand and hellish amounts of failures and dips/wheel denting. As you say......IF done properly all well and good, but the same scum/arsehole builder, Persimmon, gave me a mortar mix laboratory/chemically proved to be 9 sand to 1 cement ffs.....! All had to be removed by angle grinder and replaced to a depth of 35mm........the mess cost me a new garden too.....! Mortar the bestvweed killer I have ever witnessed.......and grass killer.......and bushes..... The gates now open to all in the building trade to plead innocence.........my deafness shall be selective as usual........I had to work to stringent BS/ISO standards, and PAY for it to be implemented as an owner/director. Building trade, imho, is full of “that’s good enough for yer work” attitudinals. Kev if your saying your brickwork was laid with a 9 to 1 mix I’m afraid raking out and repointing is errrr not the answer. If the house is or was persimmon then the brickwork will not be load bearing. They only build timber frame houses called timber kits up your end. The roofs are battened and the tiles loaded to stress the frame before bricklaying can commence. If the brickwork was laid before the frame was stressed it would crack..... Were talking about your previous house here yes ? |
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Post by clarki on Jan 16, 2020 20:40:11 GMT
TBH most people understand a new build house is built by the lowest priced contractor, using the cheapest labour, in the shortest time with the cheapest products. Persimmon and Taylor Wimpey excel at this. Its well documented. Yet people still buy their product??!! Go figure.
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