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Post by unclebob on Sept 23, 2022 20:49:17 GMT
Just read …..
"Williams have announced that Nicholas Latifi will leave the team at the end of 2022 – when his current contract expires – after three seasons with the Grove squad.
Following several free practice outings, Williams handed Latifi his F1 race debut in 2020 – the Canadian making 55 starts and scoring seven points to date. And on Friday, Williams announced that the season finale in Abu Dhabi would be his last race with the team."
Don’t think he ever had the talent to be in F1 ☹️
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Post by Hoovie on Sept 23, 2022 21:21:13 GMT
Just read ….. "Williams have announced that Nicholas Latifi will leave the team at the end of 2022 – when his current contract expires – after three seasons with the Grove squad. Following several free practice outings, Williams handed Latifi his F1 race debut in 2020 – the Canadian making 55 starts and scoring seven points to date. And on Friday, Williams announced that the season finale in Abu Dhabi would be his last race with the team." Don’t think he ever had the talent to be in F1 ☹️ I'm surprised ..... .... that he wasn't given his marching orders long ago |
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Post by unclebob on Sept 23, 2022 21:43:54 GMT
Think Nyck de Vries doing so well didn’t help Latifi‘s poor performance .
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Post by jasehutch on Oct 9, 2022 5:12:45 GMT
Anyone watching ?
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Post by unclebob on Oct 9, 2022 16:16:21 GMT
Tried too but times all over the place ! Watching it live was too early for me so planned to catch up with it at 9.30am. Didn’t want to know the outcome so turns it on at 9.30 just to see the winner holding up the trophy 😠😠 Whole race seemed two hours late, so ended up watching the highlights on YouTube . Messy race and gobsmacked to see recovery vehicles on the track…had a chill down my spine ofter the Jules Bianchi accident, same circuit and in the wet again …FIA need to look into that . |
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Post by unclebob on Oct 10, 2022 16:13:26 GMT
Looks like RedBull and Aston Martin have over spent during the 2021 season 😮
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Post by charliefarlie on Oct 10, 2022 16:36:34 GMT
Looks like RedBull and Aston Martin have over spent during the 2021 season 😮 It’s a sad day in F1 when teams are running round telling tales in order to gain some sort of an advantage, Rules are rules though but often it’s the interpretation rather than the application.. Its a bit late surely to start arguing the toss over any real or dreamt up breaches ? |
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Post by philip42h on Oct 11, 2022 8:05:32 GMT
Looks like RedBull and Aston Martin have over spent during the 2021 season 😮 It’s a sad day in F1 when teams are running round telling tales in order to gain some sort of an advantage, Rules are rules though but often it’s the interpretation rather than the application.. Its a bit late surely to start arguing the toss over any real or dreamt up breaches ? True, but there's little point in having rules in F1 if they aren't enforced. Those relating to the construction of the car, for example, can generally be checked race by race. The rule relating to the budget cap can only be verified by 'accountants' after the season has ended - and that appears to be the case here. For Red Bull the FIA is saying that they overspent by a small amount; for others the FIA is saying that their accounts just aren't good enough. But just as a millimetre or two here and there on the car can yield an 'unfair' performance advantage, a million or two on the budget can have a similar affect on performance ... I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens ...  |
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Post by unclebob on Oct 11, 2022 11:39:37 GMT
Quote….Formula 1 boss Ross Brawn warned back in 2019 that the F1 cost cap measures “have teeth” and will bite teams if they fall foul of the rules.
So if that’s the case I would expect harsh action to the teams that have broken the rules, otherwise a slap on the wrist and all the teams will be doing it .
…and don’t involve a financial penalty, it has to be points from their constructors and drivers tally.
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Post by three5 on Oct 11, 2022 12:24:21 GMT
Quote….Formula 1 boss Ross Brawn warned back in 2019 that the F1 cost cap measures “have teeth” and will bite teams if they fall foul of the rules. So if that’s the case I would expect harsh action to the teams that have broken the rules, otherwise a slap on the wrist and all the teams will be doing it . …and don’t involve a financial penalty, it has to be points from their constructors and drivers tally. Fully agree Bob, but there is a "law of unintended consequences" here. Just look at the "too many engine parts" penalty, the extra power generated by a new engine appears to make it worthwhile taking the penalty because of the advantage the new engine gives - and I'm suspecting that there are teams that are making that calculation. If there is just a financial penalty, the same sort of calculations will apply. Maybe taking any overspend off this years budget would be fairer so that it would restrict development for those who break the rules and hopefully, nullify the advantage that they gained. |
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Post by firemac on Oct 11, 2022 13:09:17 GMT
From what I’ve read Red Bull’s overspending was less than 10% and was in respect of “catering and legal “ costs; can’t help thinking that a little bit of mis-allocation in the cost ledger could get them off the hook of having overspent on engine or chassis development. Only a switched on forensic accountant would find that sort of “mistake”. Seems to me that an overspend should have clear punishment no matter where it occurs. Make the cap realistic then apply the rules impartially.
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Post by charliefarlie on Oct 11, 2022 16:45:31 GMT
Quote….Formula 1 boss Ross Brawn warned back in 2019 that the F1 cost cap measures “have teeth” and will bite teams if they fall foul of the rules. So if that’s the case I would expect harsh action to the teams that have broken the rules, otherwise a slap on the wrist and all the teams will be doing it . …and don’t involve a financial penalty, it has to be points from their constructors and drivers tally. Why penalise the drivers ? They drive the cars they don’t get involved in budgets other than sorting their pay or for some how much they contribute…… The driver does his/her job so why should they suffer. A art from which…. It’s supposed to be Formula 1. That used to mean the fastest best cars anyone could build not a sum of parts that aren’t the best. Rules rules and more rules it ruins sport. |
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Post by unclebob on Oct 11, 2022 17:44:58 GMT
Quote….Formula 1 boss Ross Brawn warned back in 2019 that the F1 cost cap measures “have teeth” and will bite teams if they fall foul of the rules. So if that’s the case I would expect harsh action to the teams that have broken the rules, otherwise a slap on the wrist and all the teams will be doing it . …and don’t involve a financial penalty, it has to be points from their constructors and drivers tally. Why penalise the drivers ? They drive the cars they don’t get involved in budgets other than sorting their pay or for some how much they contribute…… The driver does his/her job so why should they suffer. A art from which…. It’s supposed to be Formula 1. That used to mean the fastest best cars anyone could build not a sum of parts that aren’t the best. Rules rules and more rules it ruins sport. As the drivers are always saying …"we win and loose as a team" so taking that on board, drivers points should be docked as well . |
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Post by three5 on Oct 11, 2022 18:03:08 GMT
Why penalise the drivers ? They drive the cars they don’t get involved in budgets other than sorting their pay or for some how much they contribute…… The driver does his/her job so why should they suffer. A art from which…. It’s supposed to be Formula 1. That used to mean the fastest best cars anyone could build not a sum of parts that aren’t the best. Rules rules and more rules it ruins sport. As the drivers are always saying …"we win and loose as a team" so taking that on board, drivers points should be docked as well . Well, the drivers get the benefit of the extra development money AND are part of the team so to exclude them would seem perverse. The team objective is to win the championship with one of their drivers so the only sensible sanction is to act in a way that endangers that win. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Oct 11, 2022 19:10:24 GMT
The drivers do as they’re told. We see countless poor decisions made by the teams which sometimes are questioned by the drivers via radio. But they do as they are instructed. Quite how a driver is responsible for what the accountants do is beyond me…
I was once placed into a championship fight in the super heavyweight division when I was a heavy not a super heavy. I did exactly as I was told by our instructor why wouldn’t I. I won that fight in under one minute and was given the trophy . I was only 16 and it meant the world to me. Then in went a complaint because I wasn’t heavy enough for that division . Trophy was taken back and I was gutted.
How on earth a driver a fighter a footballer or a blooming table tennis player should suffer because the management messes up is beyond me.
The sport of boxing has been ruined. Decimated by rules and greed. F1 is or perhaps has gone that way.
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