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bolo1957
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starting problems Jun 27, 2021 14:10:13 GMT

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Post by bolo1957 on Jun 27, 2021 14:10:13 GMT

i cant start my 2007 T180 its on a push button start , its always started first time but this morning it just wont fire up , plenty of power in the battery and its turning over and theres plenty of fuel in it but it just keeps trying until i take my foot of the clutch as i am worried i might be doing some damage if i just let it keep trying , any help or advice would be most appreciated

davrav Global Moderator Posts: 6,832 Primary Vehicle: RAV4 2.2 D4D Year: 2008 Model Spec/Trim: XTR+ Engine Capacity: 2.2 Fuel Type: Diesel Transmission: Manual Drive Type: 4WD/AWD	starting problems Jun 27, 2021 15:08:47 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by davrav on Jun 27, 2021 15:08:47 GMT Is there pressure in the fuel system? Have you tried pumping the black rubber stopper on the top of the fuel filter until it feels hard?
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bolo1957 Club Member Posts: 56	starting problems Jun 27, 2021 16:04:57 GMT davrav likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bolo1957 on Jun 27, 2021 16:04:57 GMT yes i have tried pushing that black stopper quite a few times to no avail just tried it again and i get one push until it feels hard ,thanks for your help

bolo1957 Club Member Posts: 56	starting problems Jun 28, 2021 10:23:31 GMT widge likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bolo1957 on Jun 28, 2021 10:23:31 GMT i dissconected the pipes leading to and from the filter and pressed the ignition button on, no sign of any diesel on both occasions dont know if this is a pointer to the fuel pump not working

davrav Global Moderator Posts: 6,832 Primary Vehicle: RAV4 2.2 D4D Year: 2008 Model Spec/Trim: XTR+ Engine Capacity: 2.2 Fuel Type: Diesel Transmission: Manual Drive Type: 4WD/AWD	starting problems Jun 28, 2021 10:29:45 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by davrav on Jun 28, 2021 10:29:45 GMT There should be fuel flowing. Has any diagnosis been done with a scanner?
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bolo1957 Club Member Posts: 56	starting problems Jun 28, 2021 11:13:44 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bolo1957 on Jun 28, 2021 11:13:44 GMT no codes showing on the handheld diagnostic tool that i have

davrav Global Moderator Posts: 6,832 Primary Vehicle: RAV4 2.2 D4D Year: 2008 Model Spec/Trim: XTR+ Engine Capacity: 2.2 Fuel Type: Diesel Transmission: Manual Drive Type: 4WD/AWD	starting problems Jun 28, 2021 11:56:16 GMT unclebob likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by davrav on Jun 28, 2021 11:56:16 GMT Have you checked the fuel pump relay? fusesdiagram.com/toyota/fuses-and-relay-toyota-rav4-2005-2012.html
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starting problems Jun 28, 2021 19:11:21 GMT davrav, unclebob, and 1 more like this

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Post by bolo1957 on Jun 28, 2021 19:11:21 GMT

no i havnt checked it . not sure how to to be honest ,i have now taken it to a local garage they seem to think its an imobalizer problem .they wanted my spare fob as they wanted to try that but that didnt solve the problem ,so waiting to hear from them tomorrow

bolo1957 Club Member Posts: 56	starting problems Jun 30, 2021 17:18:11 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bolo1957 on Jun 30, 2021 17:18:11 GMT garage said its an imobolizer problem in the ecu and they are unable to do anything with it ,i towed it back tonight

davrav Global Moderator Posts: 6,832 Primary Vehicle: RAV4 2.2 D4D Year: 2008 Model Spec/Trim: XTR+ Engine Capacity: 2.2 Fuel Type: Diesel Transmission: Manual Drive Type: 4WD/AWD	starting problems Jun 30, 2021 21:52:45 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by davrav on Jun 30, 2021 21:52:45 GMT Jun 30, 2021 17:18:11 GMT bolo1957 said: garage said its an imobolizer problem in the ecu and they are unable to do anything with it ,i towed it back tonight Looks like it needs a tow to Mr T…..
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bolo1957 Club Member Posts: 56	starting problems Jul 1, 2021 18:57:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bolo1957 on Jul 1, 2021 18:57:39 GMT would changing the ecu solve the problem , i see there are plenty for sale on ebay

bolo1957 Club Member Posts: 56	starting problems Jul 6, 2021 18:41:09 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bolo1957 on Jul 6, 2021 18:41:09 GMT had the car checked out by an auto electrician and he says the immobolizer is ok. what i have noticed is the black plunger on top of the filter is musch easier to push and doesnt harden up as it did before ,but it still doesnt start

bolo1957 Club Member Posts: 56	starting problems Jul 6, 2021 18:47:23 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bolo1957 on Jul 6, 2021 18:47:23 GMT on the diagram for the fuel pump relay above mine is different R5 & R6 are not in that position and i cant find where they are , any help would be most appreciated

bolo1957 Club Member Posts: 56	starting problems Jul 6, 2021 20:01:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bolo1957 on Jul 6, 2021 20:01:39 GMT

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Primary Vehicle: RAV 4.4 Hybrid
Year: 2016
Model Spec/Trim: Excel
Engine Capacity: 2.5l
Fuel Type: Hybrid
Transmission: Automatic
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD

starting problems Jul 7, 2021 7:55:54 GMT davrav and bolo1957 like this

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Post by shcm on Jul 7, 2021 7:55:54 GMT

If it were me, I'd stop looking for a fuel pump relay. The fuel pump is driven off the engine. The electrical connections associated with the pump are the suction control valve drive and fuel temperature sensor. There is no power supply (relay).

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Diesel RAV (T180) -> no fuel pump relay

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