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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 8, 2021 16:07:51 GMT
Bit of both Charlie, will a Karcher get the car clean just using snow foam and water or will it be just like it was from the garage jet wash if i can't dry it off? The problem you described is most likely due the the 'detergent' contained in the shampoo supplied at that particular garage. A pressure washer and the right amount of snow foam will do the job very nicely ... You are then left with the question of the hardness of the water in your area - if it is hard you may well want to towel dry; if it is relatively soft you may be able to get away with a 'drip-dry' - I do but it would be better if I took the trouble to dry the car. Finally, you probably want to get a decent coat of wax back onto the car in order to make future washes easier ... Ditto. Most snow foams have small amounts of nasties . But usually very little just enough to clean the car. A quality foam like Autobrite Magifoam works out cheaper than some of the less expensive ones by way of how little you need to put in the Lance bottle. I’ve tried some of the cheaper stuff and it’s much harsher and uneconomic to use. Through winter I never actually touch the cars. They will have been waxed so the dust much or whatever isn’t stuck on. I foam leave 10 minutes then power wash off. This time of the year I foam power wash then hand wash the car then power wash off again then towel dry. I always spray with a detailing spray before towelling.
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 9, 2021 7:56:31 GMT
Ok thank you :TU: Sooooooo, i know this has been discussed about a billion times but what pressure washer should i get and what other bits and pieces would i need to use the snow foam. I had a Nilfisk one before but didn't get round to using it at all, before my mate bought it off me. Hopefully when i can have the steroid injection, then no doubt it will be an operation, i can get back to washing and drying it by hand :yes:
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Post by philip42h on Jun 9, 2021 9:55:45 GMT
Ok thank you Sooooooo, i know this has been discussed about a billion times but what pressure washer should i get and what other bits and pieces would i need to use the snow foam. I had a Nilfisk one before but didn't get round to using it at all, before my mate bought it off me. Hopefully when i can have the steroid injection, then no doubt it will be an operation, i can get back to washing and drying it by hand And you just know that you will get a load of rather different answers but this is what I have: - Nilfisk P150 Pressure Washer - now superseded by later models but it has sufficient power (150 bar) to easily drive the snow foam lance and 10m of high pressure hose (on a easy wind reel) so that I can get around the car without having to move the washer
- Autobrite Direct Snow Foam Lance - which is inconveniently out of stock but would provide a high quality snow foam lance and Charlie's preferred snow foam - you can also buy the snow foam from them in larger quantities
- I also have an under body lance for the Nilfisk which is very handy not just for wheel arches and under the sills but also for a final rinse (and reaching the roof 'cos I'm not too tall)
I have had this set for around seven years now - all working faultlessly ...
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Post by three5 on Jun 9, 2021 12:51:18 GMT
Ok thank you Sooooooo, i know this has been discussed about a billion times but what pressure washer should i get and what other bits and pieces would i need to use the snow foam. I had a Nilfisk one before but didn't get round to using it at all, before my mate bought it off me. Hopefully when i can have the steroid injection, then no doubt it will be an operation, i can get back to washing and drying it by hand And you just know that you will get a load of rather different answers but this is what I have: - Nilfisk P150 Pressure Washer - now superseded by later models but it has sufficient power (150 bar) to easily drive the snow foam lance and 10m of high pressure hose (on a easy wind reel) so that I can get around the car without having to move the washer
- Autobrite Direct Snow Foam Lance - which is inconveniently out of stock but would provide a high quality snow foam lance and Charlie's preferred snow foam - you can also buy the snow foam from them in larger quantities
- I also have an under body lance for the Nilfisk which is very handy not just for wheel arches and under the sills but also for a final rinse (and reaching the roof 'cos I'm not too tall)
I have had this set for around seven years now - all working faultlessly ...
I've exactly the same one Phillip and much prefer it to the Karcher that I had previously. I had a cheap foam gun that I bought when I had the Karcher but for the past couple of years have been using a Krazle ( Charlie's recommendation! ) It's a very good combination - the volume of foam produced by the gun was quite a shock. Grandchildren loved it!
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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 9, 2021 17:02:30 GMT
And you just know that you will get a load of rather different answers but this is what I have: - Nilfisk P150 Pressure Washer - now superseded by later models but it has sufficient power (150 bar) to easily drive the snow foam lance and 10m of high pressure hose (on a easy wind reel) so that I can get around the car without having to move the washer
- Autobrite Direct Snow Foam Lance - which is inconveniently out of stock but would provide a high quality snow foam lance and Charlie's preferred snow foam - you can also buy the snow foam from them in larger quantities
- I also have an under body lance for the Nilfisk which is very handy not just for wheel arches and under the sills but also for a final rinse (and reaching the roof 'cos I'm not too tall)
I have had this set for around seven years now - all working faultlessly ...
I've exactly the same one Phillip and much prefer it to the Karcher that I had previously. I had a cheap foam gun that I bought when I had the Karcher but for the past couple of years have been using a Krazle ( Charlie's recommendation! ) It's a very good combination - the volume of foam produced by the gun was quite a shock. Grandchildren loved it! The thing that’s great about the Kranzle machines is the flow rate. They shift water faster and harder than most machines. At on time Kranzle machines were quite expensive but Karcher ones have pretty much caught them up price wise.
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 10, 2021 6:10:20 GMT
Ok thank you Sooooooo, i know this has been discussed about a billion times but what pressure washer should i get and what other bits and pieces would i need to use the snow foam. I had a Nilfisk one before but didn't get round to using it at all, before my mate bought it off me. Hopefully when i can have the steroid injection, then no doubt it will be an operation, i can get back to washing and drying it by hand And you just know that you will get a load of rather different answers but this is what I have: - Nilfisk P150 Pressure Washer - now superseded by later models but it has sufficient power (150 bar) to easily drive the snow foam lance and 10m of high pressure hose (on a easy wind reel) so that I can get around the car without having to move the washer
- Autobrite Direct Snow Foam Lance - which is inconveniently out of stock but would provide a high quality snow foam lance and Charlie's preferred snow foam - you can also buy the snow foam from them in larger quantities
- I also have an under body lance for the Nilfisk which is very handy not just for wheel arches and under the sills but also for a final rinse (and reaching the roof 'cos I'm not too tall)
I have had this set for around seven years now - all working faultlessly ...
Sounds good to me Philip so will take a look at the Nilfisks again :TU: The Kranzle machine is way out my price range :yes:
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Post by three5 on Jun 10, 2021 7:18:46 GMT
And you just know that you will get a load of rather different answers but this is what I have: - Nilfisk P150 Pressure Washer - now superseded by later models but it has sufficient power (150 bar) to easily drive the snow foam lance and 10m of high pressure hose (on a easy wind reel) so that I can get around the car without having to move the washer
- Autobrite Direct Snow Foam Lance - which is inconveniently out of stock but would provide a high quality snow foam lance and Charlie's preferred snow foam - you can also buy the snow foam from them in larger quantities
- I also have an under body lance for the Nilfisk which is very handy not just for wheel arches and under the sills but also for a final rinse (and reaching the roof 'cos I'm not too tall)
I have had this set for around seven years now - all working faultlessly ...
Sounds good to me Philip so will take a look at the Nilfisks again The Kranzle machine is way out my price range The Krazle Foam Gun works brilliantly with the Nilfisk Pressure washer. You just need to unscrew the Krazle hose adaptor and screw on the Nilfisk one and you're up and running.
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 14, 2021 8:32:08 GMT
Sounds good to me Philip so will take a look at the Nilfisks again The Kranzle machine is way out my price range The Krazle Foam Gun works brilliantly with the Nilfisk Pressure washer. You just need to unscrew the Krazle hose adaptor and screw on the Nilfisk one and you're up and running. Cheers Chris :TU: After looking around and talking to folk that i know with a pressure washer it seems that the Karcher is the most favoured, but i thought i'd read some time back that the Karchers weren't has good as they used to be,? The K7 seems to be No1 on most of the reviews i've looked at but i don't really want to spend that sort of money so what would be a good alternative or are they all of a muchness?
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Post by davrav on Jun 14, 2021 9:34:25 GMT
For occasional use I would go for something like this Paul: www.argos.co.uk/product/7592250I have the C105.6 [presumably previous version] and it is perfectly adequate for cleaning our cars and the odd deck clean or whatever. After all, you won't be cleaning farm machinery..... It doesn't have wheels but is light enough to pick up and reposition - I actually find that more convenient as our drive is gravel. There is no hose winder either but I find that a loose coil is better for the hose anyway. Doesn't take up too much room when stored either. It has an aluminium rather than plastic pump. Had mine for at least five years with no issues. EDIT Just seen this Makita: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001R7LRSY?tag=wwwhonestjo03-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
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Post by firemac on Jun 14, 2021 10:04:40 GMT
Over the last 10 years or so, I’ve gone through 2 or 3 Karchers; they didn’t last well at all. Bought a Black & Decker off Amazon a couple of years ago and although I didn’t expect much as it was relatively cheap, it’s turned out to be very good.👍
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Post by clarki on Jun 14, 2021 11:05:00 GMT
I keep finding the expensive karchers last about 5 mins, the cheap ones seem to go on forever??!!
And the power levels all seem more or less the same to me no mater what they quote in the spec.
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Post by Mb2t on Jun 14, 2021 15:17:59 GMT
I have a Kercher for many years now. Good enough for occasional car wash and pavement clean.
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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 14, 2021 16:45:07 GMT
I keep finding the expensive karchers last about 5 mins, the cheap ones seem to go on forever??!! And the power levels all seem more or less the same to me no mater what they quote in the spec. Karchers are expensive now they never used to be.. I bought my first Kranzle in 86 and replaced it two years back. It cost about 700 but I used it commercially at work during that time. I sold it to a pal who had been after it for ages for 150. It’s still going strong today My new machine was never going to be anything but another Kranzle. I bought the K1152 TST I paid 700 not the price in this link which is just to show the machine. www.aquablast-systems.co.uk/kranzle-k-1152-tst-pressure-washer-491-p.asp?gclid=CjwKCAjw_JuGBhBkEiwA1xmbRaX4M8yaPNL4EnWv41rTTDRukAa_FPTV-zTjNBqfVgcux6Cvr5_a2RoCVuAQAvD_BwEApart from the bulletproof quality it’s the ease of use that is the strong point. The hose rolls back on so easy. The flow rate is awesome and I’ve never yet used either machine at full power. The dirt buster Lance included is staggeringly good. Would I spend 400 to 500 for a top end Karcher ? Err no. I know these machines are not for everyone and certainly not for the occasional user like Paul but long term they surely must work out cheaper albeit at a bit more outlay.
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Post by three5 on Jun 14, 2021 17:35:19 GMT
The Nilfisk 150.2 ( which is the newer model of the one that I have ) has a very similar spec to Charlies Krazle. I've had mine for 7 or 8 years and have only just discovered that the handle is telescopic - stores under my workbench a treat! Not sure how the Krazle handles pressure changes, but the Nilfisk does it by twisting the nozzle on the gun. This is very convenient when you are washing the motor as you can instantly turn it up to wash under the wheel arches or down to wash off the shampoo or snowfoam. I'd certainly not regard myself as a professional user, or even a heavy duty one these days, but it's also done a very good job on a concrete mixer and powerfloat. The hire place were so impressed they knocked down the cost of the hire as they went back in much better condition than we got them! www.nilfisk.com/en-gb/consumer/products/high-pressure-washers/excellent-dynamic/e-1502-10-h-x-tra-uk/c_128471201/ Price seem to be just under £400.
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Post by shcm on Jun 14, 2021 17:45:38 GMT
In my experience, to get any sort of decent longevity (many years) out of a karcher you'd need one from the "professional" range (i.e. the grey coloured ones) and not the domestic ones (yellow coloured).
Domestic only suited to occasional use and if used weekly for a car clean, quite common for them to expire after 12 to 18 months. Well certainly the case in the past, anyway.
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