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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 4, 2021 12:10:21 GMT
Mrs P put some Shell petrol in last week on our way back home and she asked about their Jet wash as the Rav needed a wash, so i gave it a go, haven't used a garage jet wash for years. So put my poond coins in and started to shampoo all over, the Rav not me  Then i had to press the rinse off button and all looked great at the end when it was wet and shiny, until we got back home and it looked even dirtier with white spots and runs all over it  I don't remember having this when i used to use the jet washes a lot years ago, the car always ended up looking nice clean and sparkly  |
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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 5, 2021 18:06:50 GMT
A lot of forecourt wash machines use TFR ( Traffic Film Remover ) which is a vile corrosive brutal way of cleaning a car. It can and will strip wax on contact and cause water spotting which if left in hot sunny weather can leave marks that require polishing to remove them.
The brushes on these machines can leave dreadful swirling. They get filled with muck and grit from whatever they have been used to clean.
I wouldn’t use a garage washer if they paid me.
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Post by shcm on Jun 5, 2021 18:29:46 GMT
It's dependent on area around Brum, but many areas are hard water. If you're fussy, in this area, it has to be towel dried, otherwise it spots badly due to the water hardness.
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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 5, 2021 20:14:26 GMT
It's dependent on area around Brum, but many areas are hard water. If you're fussy, in this area, it has to be towel dried, otherwise it spots badly due to the water hardness. It’ll be hard alright if they’ve put TFR in the machine..... |
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Post by bigkev on Jun 6, 2021 18:03:38 GMT
Safer to use Ferry Liquid with a dash of caustic soda.
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 7, 2021 6:57:13 GMT
A lot of forecourt wash machines use TFR ( Traffic Film Remover ) which is a vile corrosive brutal way of cleaning a car. It can and will strip wax on contact and cause water spotting which if left in hot sunny weather can leave marks that require polishing to remove them. The brushes on these machines can leave dreadful swirling. They get filled with muck and grit from whatever they have been used to clean. I wouldn’t use a garage washer if they paid me. Well it has been left in hot sunshine now for a while but we, my daughter and meself managed to give it a wash yesterday and can see that it has been stripped of any wax i'd put on and there are like oil slick markings here and there that i could see. I didn't use the brush/broom that was there just the jet wash spray. Reason for using it is because i have carpal tunnel in both hands but my right hand is the worse so far and i can't even clench my fist with it now, so what would be the alternatives to keeping the cars clean? |
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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 7, 2021 9:09:28 GMT
A lot of forecourt wash machines use TFR ( Traffic Film Remover ) which is a vile corrosive brutal way of cleaning a car. It can and will strip wax on contact and cause water spotting which if left in hot sunny weather can leave marks that require polishing to remove them. The brushes on these machines can leave dreadful swirling. They get filled with muck and grit from whatever they have been used to clean. I wouldn’t use a garage washer if they paid me. Well it has been left in hot sunshine now for a while but we, my daughter and meself managed to give it a wash yesterday and can see that it has been stripped of any wax i'd put on and there are like oil slick markings here and there that i could see. I didn't use the brush/broom that was there just the jet wash spray. Reason for using it is because i have carpal tunnel in both hands but my right hand is the worse so far and i can't even clench my fist with it now, so what would be the alternatives to keeping the cars clean? Paul there’s no answer to your question. If you can’t wash your car the obvious one is can someone else help ? Folk are with very good reason wary of those brushes so am I. But I’m equally wary of what they put inside the machines. TFR or Truckwash as it’s sometimes called is often what they use because it’s cheap. Very cheap. Some are called “ non acidic” but just like non acidic wheel cleaners there’s nasty corrosive ingredients in them. Any residual marks will require polishing out either by machine or by hand then the car re waxing. It’s a real pain Paul but I’ve seen it loads of times. |
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 8, 2021 7:47:38 GMT
Well it has been left in hot sunshine now for a while but we, my daughter and meself managed to give it a wash yesterday and can see that it has been stripped of any wax i'd put on and there are like oil slick markings here and there that i could see. I didn't use the brush/broom that was there just the jet wash spray. Reason for using it is because i have carpal tunnel in both hands but my right hand is the worse so far and i can't even clench my fist with it now, so what would be the alternatives to keeping the cars clean? Paul there’s no answer to your question. If you can’t wash your car the obvious one is can someone else help ? Folk are with very good reason wary of those brushes so am I. But I’m equally wary of what they put inside the machines. TFR or Truckwash as it’s sometimes called is often what they use because it’s cheap. Very cheap. Some are called “ non acidic” but just like non acidic wheel cleaners there’s nasty corrosive ingredients in them. Any residual marks will require polishing out either by machine or by hand then the car re waxing. It’s a real pain Paul but I’ve seen it loads of times. Oaky doaky thanks Charlie for the info :TU: so we won't be using those again, and no point in investing in a Karcher or some other jet wash? |
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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 8, 2021 7:54:38 GMT
Paul there’s no answer to your question. If you can’t wash your car the obvious one is can someone else help ? Folk are with very good reason wary of those brushes so am I. But I’m equally wary of what they put inside the machines. TFR or Truckwash as it’s sometimes called is often what they use because it’s cheap. Very cheap. Some are called “ non acidic” but just like non acidic wheel cleaners there’s nasty corrosive ingredients in them. Any residual marks will require polishing out either by machine or by hand then the car re waxing. It’s a real pain Paul but I’ve seen it loads of times. Oaky doaky thanks Charlie for the info  so we won't be using those again, and no point in investing in a Karcher or some other jet wash? Re the jet was I’m unsure if that was a statement or a question ? Question mark is confusing me . |
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 8, 2021 7:58:58 GMT
Oaky doaky thanks Charlie for the info so we won't be using those again, and no point in investing in a Karcher or some other jet wash? Re the jet was I’m unsure if that was a statement or a question ? Question mark is confusing me . Bit of both Charlie, will a Karcher get the car clean just using snow foam and water or will it be just like it was from the garage jet wash if i can't dry it off? |
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Post by philip42h on Jun 8, 2021 8:25:37 GMT
Re the jet was I’m unsure if that was a statement or a question ? Question mark is confusing me . Bit of both Charlie, will a Karcher get the car clean just using snow foam and water or will it be just like it was from the garage jet wash if i can't dry it off? The problem you described is most likely due the the 'detergent' contained in the shampoo supplied at that particular garage. A pressure washer and the right amount of snow foam will do the job very nicely ... You are then left with the question of the hardness of the water in your area - if it is hard you may well want to towel dry; if it is relatively soft you may be able to get away with a 'drip-dry' - I do but it would be better if I took the trouble to dry the car. Finally, you probably want to get a decent coat of wax back onto the car in order to make future washes easier ...  |
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 8, 2021 9:38:06 GMT
Cheers Philip i will have to look into the washers or try and borrow one first to see how good a job it'll do. I have always wiped dry the cars we've had as if left we do get the white water marks but according to this HERE our water in Brum is soft. Last time i waxed the Rav which was about last September time, Mrs P had to help me finish it off, but at the moment i wouldn't be able to even make a start even taking pain killers :no: |
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Post by shcm on Jun 8, 2021 10:36:35 GMT
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Post by philip42h on Jun 8, 2021 10:53:51 GMT
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 8, 2021 11:09:26 GMT
Strange showing Alabama, i just saw Birmingham and thought it was UK Brum yet he text refers to Birmingham UK? We are Severn Trent and Andy's link above HERE suggests we are soft in Brum Edit- looks like i can't get the info into the link. |
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