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Post by davem on Sept 6, 2018 18:24:08 GMT
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Post by charliefarlie on Sept 8, 2018 8:22:36 GMT
The RAV4 that came 4th... Was it the hybrid or diesel ?
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Post by Rambler on Sept 8, 2018 8:49:21 GMT
Hmm, an interesting read.
As you say Charlie, fuel wise it doesn't say.
I really like the 2019 Rav4.
But I hate... that infotainment screen
And no CD player 😔
But great it's near the top for reliability, it's why I own one.
It feels robust and will last for years.
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Post by philip42h on Sept 8, 2018 9:04:31 GMT
If we're talking about the 2018 What Car Reliability Survey then I was quite pleased to see that the RAV 4 won it's category! They don't specify a particular engine type so I assume that the result is across them all - it will certainly include the hybrids. What did surprise me a little was the category that they put the RAV in - Large and luxury SUVs - rather than perhaps "Family SUVs" which was one by the nearly identically sized Kia Sportage ... but there again the RAV would have easily won that category too. Of course, it is a What Car report so needs to be taken with a very large pinch of salt - half the time they rate the RAV poorly at best, while the rest of the time they ignore it altogether ... Edit: I can't see where Autocar got the "RAV4 came 4th" line from. Toyota overall came 3rd - not far behind Lexus and Suzuki |
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Post by Paulus17 on Sept 8, 2018 13:29:33 GMT
If we're talking about the 2018 What Car Reliability Survey then I was quite pleased to see that the RAV 4 won it's category! They don't specify a particular engine type so I assume that the result is across them all - it will certainly include the hybrids. What did surprise me a little was the category that they put the RAV in - Large and luxury SUVs - rather than perhaps "Family SUVs" which was one by the nearly identically sized Kia Sportage ... but there again the RAV would have easily won that category too. Of course, it is a What Car report so needs to be taken with a very large pinch of salt - half the time they rate the RAV poorly at best, while the rest of the time they ignore it altogether ... Edit: I can't see where Autocar got the "RAV4 came 4th" line from. Toyota overall came 3rd - not far behind Lexus and Suzuki There was a strong result for the first-generation Nissan Leaf, which was the top electric car in the rankings and achieved the third highest score overall at 99.7%. The Toyota RAV4 took fourth, with the BMW 3 Series the top European car in fifth place. |
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Post by Paulus17 on Sept 8, 2018 13:30:26 GMT
Great news for the little Yaris as well :TU:
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Post by philip42h on Sept 8, 2018 14:53:45 GMT
If we're talking about the 2018 What Car Reliability Survey then I was quite pleased to see that the RAV 4 won it's category! They don't specify a particular engine type so I assume that the result is across them all - it will certainly include the hybrids. What did surprise me a little was the category that they put the RAV in - Large and luxury SUVs - rather than perhaps "Family SUVs" which was one by the nearly identically sized Kia Sportage ... but there again the RAV would have easily won that category too. Of course, it is a What Car report so needs to be taken with a very large pinch of salt - half the time they rate the RAV poorly at best, while the rest of the time they ignore it altogether ... Edit: I can't see where Autocar got the "RAV4 came 4th" line from. Toyota overall came 3rd - not far behind Lexus and Suzuki There was a strong result for the first-generation Nissan Leaf, which was the top electric car in the rankings and achieved the third highest score overall at 99.7%. The Toyota RAV4 took fourth, with the BMW 3 Series the top European car in fifth place. Ah yes, no ... as I said the RAV 4 won it's category in the the 2018 What Car Reliability Survey - it didn't take fourth at all. Autocar were reporting on the What Car survey and reported incorrectly ... The full list for the "Large and luxury SUVs" category is as follows: Rank Make and model Score 1 Toyota RAV4 (2013-2018) 99.6% 2 BMW X5 (2013-present) 98.3% 3 Audi Q5 (2017-present) 96.3% 4 Volkswagen Touareg (2010-2018) 95.8% 5 Hyundai Santa Fe (2013-2018) 94.6% 6 Volvo XC60 (2008-2017) 94.5% 7 Land Rover Discovery (2004-2017) 92.8% 8 Mazda CX-5 (2012-2017) 92.1% 9 BMW X3 (2011-2017) 91.5% 10 Ford Kuga (2013-present) 91.4% 11 Skoda Kodiaq (2017-present) 91.3% =12 Honda CR-V (2012-2018) 90.9% =12 Mercedes-Benz GLC (2015-present) 90.9% 14 Kia Sorento (2015-present) 90.4% 15 Porsche Macan (2014-present) 90.1% 16 Land Rover Discovery (2017-present) 85.9% 17 Jaguar F-Pace (2016-present) 85.1% 18 Volvo XC90 (2015-present) 84.8% 19 Nissan X-Trail (2014-present) 84.4% 20 Audi Q5 (2008-2017) 82.1% 21 Range Rover Sport (2014-present) 75.8% 22 Land Rover Discovery Sport (2015-present) 74.7% 23 Range Rover Evoque (2011-present) 73.2% 24 Ford Edge (2016-present) 70.7% 25 Range Rover (2013-present) 67.3% |
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Post by Ravasher on Sept 9, 2018 9:36:02 GMT
My niece bought a brand new RR Evoque last September on a 67 plate. She’s only done 7K miles on it and has already had a new turbo. It’s amazing as you would’ve thought with the amount of money your paying it would be a good quality reliable car. Prior to having this one the older one would go into limp mode for no reason at all. It probably spent more time in the garage than out.
I’m looking forward to the new Rav and seriously considering replacing it with the 4.3. 🤞🏼🤞🏼
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Post by unclebob on Sept 9, 2018 10:14:26 GMT
It’s reassuring that Toyota take Recalls seriously unlike some other manufacturers and it’s not lost Toyota any business over the years 👍🏻
Nice to see Suzuki getting some good reliability figures...bit of a wake up call to Nissan, Honda and Mitsubishi 🤔
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Post by firemac on Sept 9, 2018 12:55:09 GMT
My niece bought a brand new RR Evoque last September on a 67 plate. She’s only done 7K miles on it and has already had a new turbo. It’s amazing as you would’ve thought with the amount of money your paying it would be a good quality reliable car. Prior to having this one the older one would go into limp mode for no reason at all. It probably spent more time in the garage than out. I’m looking forward to the new Rav and seriously considering replacing it with the 4.3. 🤞🏼🤞🏼 Anything with a RR or LR badge on it is guaranteed to be a piece of sh1t. The only people who buy RRs are those who don't have to pay for them, company car drivers and the like, but who want others to think that they are minted. All they do IMHO is show that they are severely lacking in common sense. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Sept 9, 2018 19:51:43 GMT
My niece bought a brand new RR Evoque last September on a 67 plate. She’s only done 7K miles on it and has already had a new turbo. It’s amazing as you would’ve thought with the amount of money your paying it would be a good quality reliable car. Prior to having this one the older one would go into limp mode for no reason at all. It probably spent more time in the garage than out. I’m looking forward to the new Rav and seriously considering replacing it with the 4.3. 🤞🏼🤞🏼 Anything with a RR or LR badge on it is guaranteed to be a piece of sh1t. The only people who buy RRs are those who don't have to pay for them, company car drivers and the like, but who want others to think that they are minted. All they do IMHO is show that they are severely lacking in common sense. I quite like LR cars.... A new LR Velar would do very nicely. I don’t want people to think I’m minted nor am I considered by most to be lacking common sense. I may be dyslexic or thick if you like but not that daft.. |
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Post by firemac on Sept 10, 2018 10:42:44 GMT
Anything with a RR or LR badge on it is guaranteed to be a piece of sh1t. The only people who buy RRs are those who don't have to pay for them, company car drivers and the like, but who want others to think that they are minted. All they do IMHO is show that they are severely lacking in common sense. I quite like LR cars.... A new LR Velar would do very nicely. I don’t want people to think I’m minted nor am I considered by most to be lacking common sense. I may be dyslexic or thick if you like but not that daft.. Fair enough, Charlie, but ever since my first journey in a LR, I've hated the bloody things. RR's enthusiasm for gizmos and bling simply rips people off when they are the 2nd or 3rd owners. They're fine when under warranty and you don't mind your £50K - £120K car being in the dealer's garage half of the time having another system repaired but if you have to pay for it yourself, it can be extremely painful. A neighbour has two Defenders because he just likes LRs but admits that he only owns them because he can afford their unreliability; if he didn't have his own business to fund them, he wouldn't touch them with a bargepole! And as far as Discos and RRs are concerned he reckons that there isn't a hole deep enough to tip them all into. You wouldn't buy any other product if it was continually at the bottom of every consumer satisfaction survey every friggin' year, so why do people do it with LRs/RRs?
I understand that we petrolheads do not conform to the normal laws of retail logic so I can see where people can really dig cars that others think are rubbish but personally I draw the line at LR/RRs. They are just crap.
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Post by charliefarlie on Sept 10, 2018 17:10:33 GMT
I quite like LR cars.... A new LR Velar would do very nicely. I don’t want people to think I’m minted nor am I considered by most to be lacking common sense. I may be dyslexic or thick if you like but not that daft.. Fair enough, Charlie, but ever since my first journey in a LR, I've hated the bloody things. RR's enthusiasm for gizmos and bling simply rips people off when they are the 2nd or 3rd owners. They're fine when under warranty and you don't mind your £50K - £120K car being in the dealer's garage half of the time having another system repaired but if you have to pay for it yourself, it can be extremely painful. A neighbour has two Defenders because he just likes LRs but admits that he only owns them because he can afford their unreliability; if he didn't have his own business to fund them, he wouldn't touch them with a bargepole! And as far as Discos and RRs are concerned he reckons that there isn't a hole deep enough to tip them all into. You wouldn't buy any other product if it was continually at the bottom of every consumer satisfaction survey every friggin' year, so why do people do it with LRs/RRs?
I understand that we petrolheads do not conform to the normal laws of retail logic so I can see where people can really dig cars that others think are rubbish but personally I draw the line at LR/RRs. They are just crap.
Mmmm.... A few local farmers and folk who live up here have LRs.... Quite a few actualy and they seem to love them. My daughter has a late 66 plate Evoque which has now clocked nigh on 40K miles without fault. Ive kinda dropped the ball with cars.... I still love the Jag Fpace but I can’t get motivated to even go and drive one.... The Rav these days gets used really only for taking stuff to the skips. That and winter of course. We have one hell of a lot of hedges and garden so I get 3 builders bags full into the Rav no bother.. Would I want do do that with a 45 grand car ? Just five years old now with 25K miles and not a mark on it and it’s worth very little. So sod the Jag.. One thing we have missed is what steals JLR vehicles are used. If we are prepared to take a risk a nice one is cheap so it leaves the odd repair not so bad. |
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Post by Hoovie on Sept 10, 2018 17:12:57 GMT
I've never had a LR, but I have always fancied a Freelander or a Defender  I don't know if I am mechanically minded enough to deal with the apparent tribulations under the bonnet though. |
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I don't know if I am mechanically minded enough to deal with the apparent tribulations under the bonnet though.