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Post by simonb82 on Jul 19, 2022 7:39:26 GMT
Hi. I am looking to purchase a 2021 RAV4 Hybrid. I looked at the plug-in hybrid but it’s so much more expensive to buy I think I’ll just go for the standard hybrid
I was wondering what sort of economy I could expect
My commute is 80 miles. About half motorway then the other half is 50mph dual carriageway but with a lot of heavy traffic
Is getting high 40s on a run like that unrealistic?
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Post by philip42h on Jul 19, 2022 8:51:06 GMT
The WLTP figure is 48 - 50 mpg depending on whether you are looking at FWD or AWD and that figure is very realistic. What you actually get will depend entirely on how you drive. It will absolutely love the "50mph with heavy traffic" and easily return over 50 mpg for that bit. If you stick to an indicated 70mph (use radar cruise control) on the motorway you'll get around 47 mpg - or at least I do with almost boring regularity. If you need to 'hurry' along the car will do that very happily and your economy will suffer accordingly ...  I have no regular commute so my journey mix consists of silly short trips where the economy isn't particularly great and much longer trips where we inevitably wind up hurrying a bit more than would be ideal. On brim-to-brim calcs over all the time I have had this car I'm seeing 45 mpg ... All that said, the PHEV is no longer that much more expensive than the standard hybrid - it certainly was when I bought mine - and your 80 mile daily commute would suit it down to the ground as you'd be getting 40-50 miles each day on pure EV and need only run the hybrid ICE for the balance of the journey. Whether it makes economic sense I'll leave to you but you should still get the same "45 mpg" for the non-EV section as you would with the hybrid. |
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Post by firemac on Jul 19, 2022 10:39:01 GMT
Our 20-reg AWD has averaged 43+ over the last 15 months. Most of that has been local/urban running with the occasional long m-way, A-road trip (maybe once a month on average). Given the size, performance and practicality of the RAV, I’m pleased with that.
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Post by simonb82 on Jul 19, 2022 10:39:49 GMT
Thanks for the confirmation the economy I am looking for is realistic for this car. Interesting on your comments about the PHEV not being much more now. Maybe just the 6 month old market hasn’t got many yet as they still seem to be a lot more for those but if they weren’t it would be tempting for the cheaper electric range, pre-conditioning and the 300bhp  |
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Post by philip42h on Jul 19, 2022 11:27:35 GMT
Thanks for the confirmation the economy I am looking for is realistic for this car. Interesting on your comments about the PHEV not being much more now. Maybe just the 6 month old market hasn’t got many yet as they still seem to be a lot more for those but if they weren’t it would be tempting for the cheaper electric range, pre-conditioning and the 300bhp Ah, well, yes ... I rather assumed that you were looking at shiny new ones ... in which case a Design spec HEV AWD is about £40.5k while the equivalent PHEV is only £44.1k. So, £3.6k for all that PHEVieness looks quite attractive. But those are MY23 cars that won't get delivered until next year (at best). As mentioned elsewhere on this forum, the used car market is absolutely 'nuts' right now. Added to that, back in April 2021 the Design spec HEV AWD was about £35.0k while the equivalent PHEV was a massive £46.5k giving a price difference of £11.5k. What you will be seeing in the nearly new second-hand market will reflect that sort of price difference - and you'll never make anything like that amount back through fuel economies ...  |
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Post by davem on Jul 20, 2022 18:06:57 GMT
My daily commute is a 50 mile round trip. 95% of that is motorway where I tend to stick to 60 mph. My weekly mileage ie work and social probably averages out at 400 miles. When I bought my Rav I reset the dashboard reading, and its taking forever to climb back up. Anyway petrol prices being what they are I decided to stick to brim to brim calculations and also the fuelly app. Very happy to say that I am hitting 55 to 56 every week. I do however try to keep the bloody dashboard score thingy high, and keep looking for that tiny (to me, why don’t they make it bigger) green icon to get the most out of battery mode.
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Post by simonb82 on Jul 20, 2022 20:33:35 GMT
55mpg is good. I wonder how much it would drop at 70mph
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Post by philip42h on Jul 20, 2022 21:06:34 GMT
55mpg is good. I wonder how much it would drop at 70mph 55 x 60/70 = ~47 ... simple arithmetic works sometimes. As I suggested before, cruising down the motorway at 70 mine returns 47 mpg. |
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Post by simonb82 on Jul 30, 2022 18:07:49 GMT
That’s a great economy for that speed. Shame getting a nearly new RAV4 is so hard at the moment
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