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Post by bothwellbuyer on May 9, 2022 4:22:20 GMT
shock horror....a Rav weighing in at more than 2 tons ??!! Thats like a big Volvo ! What wear on tyres and how long will tyres last on that beast or does the use of electricity outweigh the cost of buying new shoes regularly? And here's me baulking at the weight of a 4.2 having run my 4.1s into the ground!!!
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Post by charliefarlie on May 9, 2022 7:01:54 GMT
What I will say is the looks of the latest RAV4 have grown on me….. My mate who lives just down the road has one in a pale grey colour and it looks very good even when parked by his Aston Martin …. Quality looks spot on but I was dismayed to note Toyota still haven’t grasped dashboards……… Still a quality vehicle and if we weren’t in this electric phase and cars were normal money I would buy one.
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ravjeff
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Posts: 756
Location: New Zealand
Primary Vehicle: RAV4
Model Spec/Trim: GLX
Engine Capacity: 2.5L
Fuel Type: Petrol
Transmission: Automatic
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by ravjeff on Dec 4, 2022 4:03:32 GMT
Oh this ain't good.
Toyota has launched an investigation into a range test of its bZ4X crossover conducted by Danish outlet FDM. The publication's test saw
the AWD bZ4X manage just 134 miles of real-world range with 20" alloys equipped. Meanwhile, the entry-level FWD bZ4X (which comes with 18" alloys)
was also tested and got a mere 152 miles of range.
For reference, the AWD bZ4X has 286 miles of WLTP range meanwhile the FWD variant is good for 313 miles according to the European testing standard.
Given that FDM is based in Denmark and the test was conducted during winter, expecting the bZ4X to match its WLTP range is unrealistic. However,
getting roughly half of what it’s supposed to is undoubtedly a surprise.
Toyota has officially responded to the range test, stating that it's looking into the matter. A Danish spokesperson for the marque suggested the
large discrepancy in range could be due to how much reserve the crossover has in its battery. However, we highly doubt you can get an extra 100+ miles
of range when your bZ4X claims it's flat.
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Post by davrav on Dec 4, 2022 8:39:26 GMT
And bear in mind that Denmark has very few hills.
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Post by charliefarlie on Dec 4, 2022 9:20:23 GMT
My daughter is/was looking to choose her next company car which will be electric simply because of the tax implications. The BZ was high on the list but as they’re not available in the UK yet or they weren’t a short while ago the car was removed from the top of the list.
If she gets supplied with a car that cannot give decent range or at least somewhere within the published range she will need two cars or she won’t be able to do her job.
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Post by firemac on Dec 4, 2022 12:18:23 GMT
My daughter is/was looking to choose her next company car which will be electric simply because of the tax implications. The BZ was high on the list but as they’re not available in the UK yet or they weren’t a short while ago the car was removed from the top of the list. If she gets supplied with a car that cannot give decent range or at least somewhere within the published range she will need two cars or she won’t be able to do her job. And there you have the wisdom of Net Zero: electric cars that are unable to get you where you want to go. Add in an unreliable charging network, 1 to 2 hour recharge times (and that’s for a few EVs, not the majority), highly debatable grid capacity, unknown battery life, etc, etc and you have a fiasco comparable to Gordon Brown’s “diesel power is the future of clean transport” cock-up. I’m firmly of the opinion now that if a politician backs it, it’s going to be a complete disaster. |
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Post by davrav on Dec 4, 2022 13:21:49 GMT
My daughter is/was looking to choose her next company car which will be electric simply because of the tax implications. The BZ was high on the list but as they’re not available in the UK yet or they weren’t a short while ago the car was removed from the top of the list. If she gets supplied with a car that cannot give decent range or at least somewhere within the published range she will need two cars or she won’t be able to do her job. And there you have the wisdom of Net Zero: electric cars that are unable to get you where you want to go. Add in an unreliable charging network, 1 to 2 hour recharge times (and that’s for a few EVs, not the majority), highly debatable grid capacity, unknown battery life, etc, etc and you have a fiasco comparable to Gordon Brown’s “diesel power is the future of clean transport” cock-up. I’m firmly of the opinion now that if a politician backs it, it’s going to be a complete disaster. Dunno what everyone is getting so exercised about with electric car range what with our excellent public transport system and all. I mean HS2 should might be finished by 2033 and that will cut 30 mins off a train journey from London to Birmingham - when the trains actually run. And rural areas are so well served with buses once every week when there is an 'r' in the month. Cynical? me? never. |
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Post by three5 on Dec 4, 2022 13:43:40 GMT
And there you have the wisdom of Net Zero: electric cars that are unable to get you where you want to go. Add in an unreliable charging network, 1 to 2 hour recharge times (and that’s for a few EVs, not the majority), highly debatable grid capacity, unknown battery life, etc, etc and you have a fiasco comparable to Gordon Brown’s “diesel power is the future of clean transport” cock-up. I’m firmly of the opinion now that if a politician backs it, it’s going to be a complete disaster. Dunno what everyone is getting so exercised about with electric car range what with our excellent public transport system and all. I mean HS2 should might be finished by 2033 and that will cut 30 mins off a train journey from London to Birmingham - when the trains actually run. And rural areas are so well served with buses once every week when there is an 'r' in the month. Cynical? me? never. I suspect that HS2 will only run overnight because that is the only time electricity will be available to power it. |
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Post by davrav on Dec 4, 2022 13:57:50 GMT
Dunno what everyone is getting so exercised about with electric car range what with our excellent public transport system and all. I mean HS2 should might be finished by 2033 and that will cut 30 mins off a train journey from London to Birmingham - when the trains actually run. And rural areas are so well served with buses once every week when there is an 'r' in the month. Cynical? me? never. I suspect that HS2 will only run overnight because that is the only time electricity will be available to power it.  |
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Post by Mb2t on Dec 4, 2022 21:31:50 GMT
I read an article that claims that electric cars only shift the pollution. They claimed that the bigger problem with cars are the tyres, as the rubber from them us washed to the side if the roads and pollute the ground. I suggest we go back to wooden wheels, we will also need to reduce the speed to about 10mph as it will be unsafe to travel faster with those wheels. Gains for everyone!
Oh, sorry, we will need to chop even more trees.
Hmmm...
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ravjeff
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Posts: 756
Location: New Zealand
Primary Vehicle: RAV4
Model Spec/Trim: GLX
Engine Capacity: 2.5L
Fuel Type: Petrol
Transmission: Automatic
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by ravjeff on Mar 16, 2023 22:22:25 GMT
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