RAV4 plug in or bz4x

What price is the bz4x ? Will buying one of the first ones mean paying a premium ? As I understand it these cars are very expensive so waiting a while if possible may be more economically viable ? If money is no object then my point is of course not applicable. 👍👍👍

I’m genuinely surprised at how RAV4 prices have got so high….. I knew they’d risen but not to those levels…  48xK for a RAV4 isn’t achievable for a lot of buyers 👍👍

Presumably the lease price matches the purchase price ? 

I understand this world of pay later but the monthly’s must surely have risen ? I know I’m old fashioned in that we buy what we can afford or we don’t buy it but in this extremely uncertain world and a world in which keeping up with our energy and food bills having another big outlay on the drive is going to prove tough for many. 

It’s only these last few years that I haven’t kept a new or near new car on the drive. Looking at car prices now means I/We will never do that again. Yes if we wanted or had to have a new car on the drive we can afford to do it but I cannot think why I would ever pay that much for a RAV4 even though I’ve grown to really like them. 

My current RAV4 is the car I’ve kept the longest ever. I don’t know nor do I want to know what it’s worth but hell will freeze over before I let it go and spend 42 to 48K on a similar car even if they were cheap to run which it seems they aren’t. 

Some illustrative lease deals Charlie:

www.autographleasing.co.uk/car-leasing/toyota/rav4?gclid=Cj0KCQjw1N2TBhCOARIsAGVHQc6Ktvm9GaYCAtkImTdpYuJiBoGT2D_FzzaHOVy0gaD55K-fFf--iUEaAsAiEALw_wcB&page=2#model-table

You can see why lease deals are attractive to the many who don't have the resources for the one off outlay only to lose half of what they have spent in the first year.

Let’s be honest Jim there isn’t as much as 10MPG between my old car and a new RAV4 whether it’s plug in or not….. That’s not that much and certainly not enough to make any odds to anyone but the high mileage user who I expect will as David points out will rent lease or whatever package they take. 

As for being a pariah because I or we drive a diesel well not only have I never considered that but I absolutely couldn’t care the tiniest bit. 

It’s not that long since our band of liars ( government) wholeheartedly encouraged us to buy diesel cars.  Now we’re told we’re choking each other by using them.Burning  Petrol buggers some peoples lungs ( were told) burning petrol buggers the planet. Again so we’re told……

Its all very well our bunch of aforementioned liars telling us we must change to electric vehicles but how many can afford them ? Certainly none of the huge percentage of folk on the so called “ living wage “ eh ?? As above we’re going through extraordinary times when some may struggle to keep warm and eat never mind find the money for electric cars. 

Too those who can afford them and buy them brilliant!! I do feel however they are funding the research and development of a generation of cars we simply will never have the electricity let alone the infrastructure to support. Not by 2030 that’s for sure. 


All car users no matter what powers their cars wear the pariahs hat to a degree 

Spec changes on the run of the mill cars every 2 to 3 years. By that I mean facelift changes. I suspect with electric or part electric we mat see changes sooner though.