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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 16, 2020 18:41:01 GMT
Thinking of claying the latest Rav as it does seem to have lots of little bits of summat stuck to it which won't wash off, so have been looking and as usual there's plenty of different products to choose from.
So are they all much of a muchness or do they vary in quality/use. Would I just need the fine clay bar of summat coarser?
Plus the only claying I have done before was a few years back when BK sent me his clay bars and some lubricant down to try.
Does the lubricant vary or is that all the same sort of stuff?
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Post by davrav on Jun 16, 2020 18:46:53 GMT
Bat call for Charlie
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Post by bigkev on Jun 16, 2020 19:19:55 GMT
1. Paul......Google Clay Mit. 2. DON’t buy wan. 3. Wash car with very warm water and likes of Ferry Liquid......strongish mix. Rinse furrily. 4. Buy some Tardis and MIST sprayer. Spray panel at a time and leave for 9.7 seconds. 5.Wipe melting tar and loosened contaminants in STRAIGHT LINES, not swirlies. 6. Repeat hot wash routine and dry aff. 7. Collinite wax.
Tip....How does one eat a Salami Sausage.....? A wee bit at a time........
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 16, 2020 21:23:52 GMT
1. Paul......Google Clay Mit. 2. DON’t buy wan. 3. Wash car with very warm water and likes of Ferry Liquid......strongish mix. Rinse furrily. 4. Buy some Tardis and MIST sprayer. Spray panel at a time and leave for 9.7 seconds. 5.Wipe melting tar and loosened contaminants in STRAIGHT LINES, not swirlies. 6. Repeat hot wash routine and dry aff. 7. Collinite wax. Tip....How does one eat a Salami Sausage.....? A wee bit at a time........ Cheers Kev. So is this method instead of claying? Is step 6 repeat on same panel as in step 5 or next panel? How much Tardis, which I've never heard of, do I need for whole car? |
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Post by bigkev on Jun 17, 2020 7:55:31 GMT
Step 6 is wash ALL panels you have sprayed with Tardis. This necessary for wax to properly adhere. If you are in any doubt, mild claybar after Tardis, but you will becastounded how clean surface is with Tardis alone.
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 17, 2020 12:47:44 GMT
THIS the stuff you on about Kev and do I need 5L?
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Post by bigkev on Jun 18, 2020 15:05:37 GMT
THIS the stuff you on about Kev and do I need 5L? Yes.....can you buy anything smaller than 5 litres...? |
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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 19, 2020 7:03:25 GMT
Why do you need Tardis ??
Yes it’s a good product but tar is easily removed with a wee drop of petrol. As a decontaminant for the paint it’s a bit overkill and it’s not nice stuff.
Claying is easy. Don’t try to reinvent the wheel just buy a mid cut bar and lube with a 50/50 mix of detailing fluid and water. It is the best corrective paint preparation ever and will always be.
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Post by bigkev on Jun 19, 2020 7:49:10 GMT
Nobody NEEDS Tardis per se, Charlie, but it must be TEN times quicker than claying, does exactly the same job, and melts the big tarry blobs that mar the clay bars. It isnae reinventing the wheel, it’s just motorising it. Clay mits are actually better now too if clay must be used. Ye pays yer choice and takes yer money, but I find it ALL quite kinda nuisansical these days, so if I can shorten the time spent doing it, so much the betterer. Certainly wouldnae put petrol on a Rav microscopic top coat though.
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Post by Paulus17 on Jun 19, 2020 8:05:41 GMT
Thanks Kev but I decided to get THIS clay bar set, sort of stick to what I know  |
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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 19, 2020 8:05:54 GMT
Claying removes all of the bonded contaminants my big pal it also starts the procedure of removing a micro thin layer of the lacquer which really really does aid the polishing process. It will during the process actually save you time and will keep your polishing pads clean.
There are a number of so called "Fall out removal" products on the market which will also remove tar and some of the bonded contaminents .... But not all. In other words utter pish.
There is no substitute im my humble opinion for properly claying.
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Jun 21, 2020 15:58:35 GMT
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Post by DjRav on Jun 21, 2020 15:58:35 GMT
Got to agree with Charlie- claying is very satisfying and leaves the paintwork feeling like a smooth piece of glass. That stops further crud sticking (for a while at least)
It’s a cheap method with great results.
Plenty of detailer required though. I usually get Meguiars.
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Post by bigkev on Jun 21, 2020 16:01:45 GMT
Got to agree with Charlie- claying is very satisfying and leaves the paintwork feeling like a smooth piece of glass. That stops further crud sticking (for a while at least) It’s a cheap method with great results. Plenty of detailer required though. I usually get Meguiars. Both do exactly the same thing.....try it.....with no risk of an expensive dod of claybar falling on ground only to be scrapped.....! |
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Post by charliefarlie on Jun 21, 2020 16:36:24 GMT
I’ve never tried using tardis as a replacement for traditional claying so I can’t voice an opinion on the results.
My method is to mix 50/50 Meguires Last Touch detailer and water and clay.
I don’t like aggressive products like Tardis and wheel cleaners unless they are really necessary. Never have never will.
There is no way Tardis will cut the laquer like a clay bar can. It has no abrasives like clay so it can’t.
I only clay prior too polishing so missing out this important element of the procedure is unthinking. It would mean the actual machine polishing would be harder.
My two cents worth.
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Post by philip42h on Jun 21, 2020 17:02:21 GMT
... There is no way Tardis will cut the laquer like a clay bar can. It has no abrasives like clay so it can’t. I only clay prior too polishing so missing out this important element of the procedure is unthinking. It would mean the actual machine polishing would be harder. My two cents worth. Bearing mind that I've never used either a clay bar or Tardis, I rather suspect that is BK's point ... We wash with water (and 'soap' / shampoo) to remove the dirt. Tardis is just a different solvent better suited to removing tar - it won't (shouldn't) touch the lacquer. Once you've Tardis'ed (or petrol'ed or WD40'ed) you'd just wash off the remaining solvent with 'soap' and water, apply wax to protect, and buff to a shine. As I think Charlie is saying, claying is an early stage of a polishing session that will cut the lacquer. Once you've clayed, you are committed to polishing before you wax ... I think ... does that sound right(ish)? |
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