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Post by unclebob on Oct 21, 2018 23:03:17 GMT
Can’t remember much about the Mexico track all a bit none discript ! I guess Lewis needs to come in first and Vettel 2nd or 3rd for the championship to be secured ?
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Post by bothwellbuyer on Oct 22, 2018 5:11:40 GMT
Eh? Not a good advert for the tyres if they can't last 30 laps?
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Post by phaeton on Oct 22, 2018 6:35:31 GMT
Mercedes dropped the ball there, should have pitted earlier & what was Bottas doing, I thought he was deliberately acting as rear gunner, but it looks like that was a reflection of his true speed. I'm with Hoovie Ocon to Mercedes, then Bottas back to Williams
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Post by Hoovie on Oct 22, 2018 7:50:47 GMT
Can’t remember much about the Mexico track all a bit none discript ! I guess Lewis needs to come in first and Vettel 2nd or 3rd for the championship to be secured ? to get the title, Lewis needs to come 7th at least once in the next 3 races - and that is also assuming Vettel wins all three. If Vettel does not win all the remaining races, Lewis is WC. It is really a done deal UNLESS something happens to Lewis Hamilton personally (al la Schumacher in 1999). Ferrari could win the next three races if Lewis was not racing as Bottas is not good enough to hold them back himself (think the only drivers (of the last 10-15 years) who would able to consistantly beat the Ferrari in a Mercedes this year is Hamilton, Vestappen, Riciardo or Alonso). PS. the outrage of the Team Orders when Bottas gave up the win for Lewis, with so many quoting Austria and Michael Schumacher being gifted the win in 2002 and how bad it was to happen then... go back to the 1999 I mentioned and you will see Schumacher giving up a win for Eddie Irvine in the penultimate race to help him try and win the World Championship. Team Sport, Team Players. (McLaren and their employees Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso forgot this in 2007 and it cost them dearly. Fortunately both Lewis and Fernando have both matured considerably since then).
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Post by philip42h on Oct 22, 2018 8:28:37 GMT
Great race and another brilliant drive from Max. The championship remains 'open' though Lewis is still clearly favourite to win. But what struck me most last night was the superb quality of the in car coverage - maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention or maybe it was the result of me watching via All 4 on my laptop but the in car footage was just breathtaking ...
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Post by davrav on Oct 22, 2018 9:35:14 GMT
Great race and another brilliant drive from Max. The championship remains 'open' though Lewis is still clearly favourite to win. But what struck me most last night was the superb quality of the in car coverage - maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention or maybe it was the result of me watching via All 4 on my laptop but the in car footage was just breathtaking ... Yes, not sure what technical advances there have been with regard to in-car cameras/transmission but we need more of that and less of the tedious and repetitious 'build up' chatter.
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Post by aleman on Oct 22, 2018 9:44:23 GMT
Mercedes dropped the ball there, should have pitted earlier
I couldn't understand why they pitted so early, and then not to bring him in when the blistering was visible and he had sufficen't gap to get out in front of Verstappen, and then to go onto softs again for the last stint??? Even Scrubbed Ultras would have given him a better edge against Verstappen in the last lap ... although perhaps the best would have been taken out of them by the time he caught Max that he still couldn't have got past.
Good race, wise driving by Lewis at the start, mature thinking, finish today take the points and wrap the title up elsewhere ... I thought it was only 5 points needed to secure the title, should be achievable. Mexico is a bit of an odd track, the merc dosn't usually perform well there, last year excepted
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Post by phaeton on Oct 22, 2018 9:55:19 GMT
I couldn't understand why they pitted so early, and then not to bring him in when the blistering was visible My take on it was, they expected Ferrari to pit Kimi the following lap but Ferrari correctly called their bluff, then I believe they thought they could Lewis get to the end on the set he had on, but by the time it was obvious he couldn't it had all gone a bit Pete Tong. As to the tyres, not sure what he had left in the locker to use.
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Post by philip42h on Oct 22, 2018 10:12:58 GMT
I couldn't understand why they pitted so early, and then not to bring him in when the blistering was visible My take on it was, they expected Ferrari to pit Kimi the following lap but Ferrari correctly called their bluff, then I believe they thought they could Lewis get to the end on the set he had on, but by the time it was obvious he couldn't it had all gone a bit Pete Tong. As to the tyres, not sure what he had left in the locker to use.
It appears that the Ferrari was the better race car on the day. Mercedes had to try something to cancel out that advantage which probably wasn't going to work even if they hadn't got it 'wrong'. With hindsight, they should have made the second stop five or six laps sooner and it may have been an even more interesting race if they had ... but that's for fantasy F1!
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Post by unclebob on Oct 22, 2018 10:38:54 GMT
Mercedes dropped the ball there, should have pitted earlier & what was Bottas doing, I thought he was deliberately acting as rear gunner, but it looks like that was a reflection of his true speed. I'm with Hoovie Ocon to Mercedes, then Bottas back to Williams
I’d have to agree with this over yesterday’s race and general lack lustre performance by bottas this year 👍🏻
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Post by phaeton on Oct 22, 2018 13:51:01 GMT
Did anyone understand Carlos Sainz's penalty? Can't find a video of the actual incident that shows anything, it looked just like we was following Vettel & I think one of the Haas's followed him.
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Post by davidwilson on Oct 22, 2018 14:01:08 GMT
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Post by phaeton on Oct 22, 2018 14:19:04 GMT
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