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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by CharlieFarlie » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:37 pm

NickB75 wrote:I recently paid £8200 for a 2010 RAV4 from a Toyota dealership. This thread is depressing me


Mileage ? You cannot buy back miles. You may have paid anywhere from 1000 to 2000 more but try making a good car out of an average one and see how long 2 K goes.

There are always going to be big differences between prices on a selection of used cars but that tells less than half the story.
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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by firemac » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:10 pm

CharlieFarlie wrote:
firemac wrote:As long as your car is EXACTLY as you describe it in the initial on-line valuation then WBAC.com prices are not bad especially when you factor in the savings you'll achieve by not having to advertise or spend time with tyre-kicking time-wasters or give test drives, haggling, etc, etc. but getting your cash in your bank within 24 hours. However, WBAC will hammer you down on any little blemish or deviation from your statement of facts once they see the car and they use a pretty big hammer. And you must read the questions very carefully, e.g. when they ask how many previous owners, you must include yourself and not just the owners before you, otherwise the valuation goes south once they see the V5; simple, you might say, but it's very easy to slip up.

Nevertheless if you are sensible and honest with yourself about your car's condition and therefore allow some "hammering room" before you go, they are not as bad as some folk think. I've used them before and been satisfied with the outcome.

We have a local version of WBAC in Sandbach (webuyanycarincheshire.com) and their valuations are very genuine but they have been around for quite a while, sell their stock from their own dealership and have a very good reputation. I used them to off-load the Shogun when I bought The Hearse - sorry, the Saab - and was delighted with their valuation and their service. Worth a punt for anyone not too far away.



Totally disagree. The prices they offer are stupidly low . It is convenient easy way to sell but why give away 1000s of pounds ?

Polish it up get it advertised and have a good go at selling it.


I can only speak from my own experience. When using WBSC and our local WBACIC, I researched the values of similar cars on AT, PH and the relative dealer websites and set my bottom lines bearing in mind the other costs and aggro that I could forego. As long as WBAC, etc matched or bettered my figures, I was happy and certainly couldn't see any good reason to go through all the hassle of a private sale.
In both my cases, the prices offered were definitely not low - I wasn't going to give either car away!
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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by CharlieFarlie » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:24 pm

Opposite experience for me. They offered 2100 for my daughters mint condition 207CC with low miles. I sold it with zero effort for just under 4000. Hardly peanuts I'm sure you Will agree.

I advertised on Pistonheads which cost nothing sold it to the first serious buyer. Haggling is part of every deal but I informed the seller he would be going home with no car if the full price was not paid. Politely put plain and simple. :s_thumbsup
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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by jolak » Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:44 pm

Hoovie, I'm just using muscle power and it seems to work. I have a kit called Kratzner which I bought from Aldi, but I've now run out.
I bought some scratch remover from a cheap shop in Alfreton today.
I think they're all variations of T-cut, which is just fine cutting paste requiring mega muscle power to get any result.

Charlie, I don't know what PTG is!
Apologies if I'm breaching any rules, but I am registered as a member. Is being a club supporter different?
If I'm doing something wrong, please spell it out to me as I'm not one to read terms and conditions.
All I'm getting so far is car dealers not offering much more than WBAC.com, so it's not looking good.
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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by Hoovie » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:18 pm

Car dealers don't appear to care about condition, so might be wasting time and effort on polishing unless you are targeting private sellers? Bad time of year to be selling a 4x4 as well :(

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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by CharlieFarlie » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:40 am

Tcut is rubbish. It's ammonia based and can leave stains. Get a low cut polish or even medium cut if doing by hand.

PTG is Paint Thickness Gauge an instrument with which we measure and monitor the thickness of the paint / laquer we are polishing.

Your paint is made up of two layers .. Base/colour coat and lacquer over the top. Polish through the lacquer and your buggered. It will leave dull areas if you do and reprinting is the only option.

My PTG identifies each layer and tells me the thickness of the base and lacquer individually. It's the laqeur we are correcting so we cannot polish all of it away.
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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by Hoovie » Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:33 am

As Charlie mentioned, Toyota paint tends to be very thin. Here are a couple of examples to show that....

As purchased at 11 years old. Typical swirls from sponge and bucket washing.
ImageSwirls by David, on Flickr

And this is an after photo with a machine polisher, but with a very fine polish, a very soft pad and only a few minutes later.
ImagePolished by David, on Flickr

On a german vehicle (my VW T4), this same polish and pad combination made very little impression. So it is a matter of going slow.


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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by J.D » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:05 pm

CharlieFarlie wrote:Tcut is rubbish. It's ammonia based and can leave stains. Get a low cut polish or even medium cut if doing by hand.



I have a DAS 6 pro with both a soft black and a medium yellow Merzerna pads, and Menzerna 2-200 med cut, and 3- 800 super finish.
From what you are saying I would be best to use Black pad and the 3-800 polish ?
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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by jolak » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:17 pm

result! First to view bought it.
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Re: bargain Rav4

PostPosted by Davrav » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:20 pm

Fantastic :s_thumbsup
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