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Injector Pump Disaster!

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Re: Injector Pump Disaster!

PostPosted by northern_lad » Wed May 10, 2017 10:15 pm

I have to agree with Charlie, my RAV4.4 Icon is a far better car than my RAV4.3 XTR.
The ride and road holding are far better and tighter with lots more space.
Not towed with it yet, towbar to be fitted on Monday.
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Re: Injector Pump Disaster!

PostPosted by Two-T » Wed May 10, 2017 10:56 pm

I do not know how the 4.3 tows, but the 4.4 does tow nicely.
I also agree that the current offering of Toyota is not good in that sense - there is NO 4x4 diesel. All diesels are 2.0L engines, which are lacking in power for towing, and also lacking in drive for two wheels. The only 4x4 is the hybrid, which I am not sure how it is for towing (auto limitations?). No wonder every time I go to the garage they try and convince me to sell as there is high demand for the 2.2L diesel 4X4.

I also heard that the 7 years of Kia, or the 5 years of Hyundai are not to the same level as Toyota, and there are lots of examples on the web for them trying to wriggle out of claims. Admittedly, if I was looking for a car now, it would have been one of those two, despite the above, as other options are way more expensive.
The other alternative is (I am probably going to be stoned to death here...) SsangYong... but I am not sure what their reliability record and how their warranty stacks up, or how they are to drive.
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Re: Injector Pump Disaster!

PostPosted by shcm » Thu May 11, 2017 7:56 am

The towing capacity of the AWD RAV 4.4 hybrid is 750kg "unbraked" and 1650kg braked. I don't tow.

...and my 4.4 hybrid is a much, much nicer vehicle than my 4.3 AWD diesels were (and they were mighty nice vehicles).

It could be argued, that with the current perceived backlash against diesel, that Toyota have actually got it right?

Anyhow, If you fancy a change, just go for it. To my mind (and each to his own) you don't have to justify it against how good or bad Toyota may or may not be. :s_thumbsup
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Re: Injector Pump Disaster!

PostPosted by anchorman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:45 am

I would agree that even if its down to our lovely Governments U turn, diesels are dead and in any case, the 2AD was struggling to meet Euro 6. Petrol, is the best way and the new Hybrid pulls like a train so I doubt you would be disappointed. As for being shafted, well I don’t quite get that. You seem to be taking this fuel pump failure very personally despite our assurances that it is so rare, I think I’m right in saying we have never had it on this or the other RAV4 forum??? You were unlucky (given there were no external influences) and there is no reason why, if repaired properly it should go on and on - whether that absorbs a trip to France is academic.

I know Charlie isn’t a lover of the Korean brands but they are very good motors and I wouldn’t hesitate to have one if the style and model fitted my requirements. Out of Kia and Hyundai, the latter has the most honest warranty with 5 years on everything. The Kia has caveats in that the battery is only 3, the exhaust is 5 and the powertrain is 7. I agree they should make that clearer but these Korean brands are very close to Japanese in terms of engineering.

Its up to you what happens next but your car repaired properly is a very dependable vehicle.
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Re: Injector Pump Disaster!

PostPosted by CharlieFarlie » Thu May 11, 2017 7:11 pm

I know hybrids are the way but it's my inability to understand them plus my suspicions that they are in their infancy.

Moving forward for me is simple given Toyota no longer do what I consider to be a credible plain ordinary diesel. I don't want a 2.0 and not anywhere near ready for a hybrid.

My car has done 22K miles now and coming up 3 1/2 years old and if I change it would be to the Jag because I love Jags. But I'm into a property deal right now so for now at least cars are out. I like my car anyway so not bothered one wee bit.

I just don't like the Korean cars and won't entertain one at any price . The way the dealer treated my mate was despicable . Had it been me I'm not sure I would have held my temper.
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Re: Injector Pump Disaster!

PostPosted by jolak » Fri May 12, 2017 6:02 pm

Just to end the saga as far as I am concerned, the garage told me that the injection "specialists" have said that the shaft and body in my pump are damaged (may have posted this before), and they happen to have a reconditioned pump for £600 + vat and this was fitted. Just charged an hours labour at £40 + vat and now the car is running well.
I have researched what goes wrong with injector pumps and the symptoms of them going wrong and my car has displayed none of these symptoms. I don't know how to hyperlink and I tried cutting and pasting, which didn't work, but there is an excellent post on www.tdiclub.com and you search "what fails in an injection pump?"
The bottom line is that the pump should not fail and this is why Anchorman and others have not heard of this happening before on this forum and others.
Somewhere along the line I have been ****** over and the Anusol will come in handy.
Thanks to all for useful information and I'm off to France now and hope all goes well with the motor (may calm down and decide to keep it rather than find myself being ****** by a Kia Dealer).
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Re: Injector Pump Disaster!

PostPosted by Two-T » Fri May 12, 2017 6:08 pm

jolak wrote:Just to end the saga as far as I am concerned, the garage told me that the injection "specialists" have said that the shaft and body in my pump are damaged (may have posted this before), and they happen to have a reconditioned pump for £600 + vat and this was fitted. Just charged an hours labour at £40 + vat and now the car is running well.
I have researched what goes wrong with injector pumps and the symptoms of them going wrong and my car has displayed none of these symptoms. I don't know how to hyperlink and I tried cutting and pasting, which didn't work, but there is an excellent post on http://www.tdiclub.com and you search "what fails in an injection pump?"
The bottom line is that the pump should not fail and this is why Anchorman and others have not heard of this happening before on this forum and others.
Somewhere along the line I have been ****** over and the Anusol will come in handy.
Thanks to all for useful information and I'm off to France now and hope all goes well with the motor (may calm down and decide to keep it rather than find myself being ****** by a Kia Dealer).

Enjoy your holiday!
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