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Post by unclebob on Sept 7, 2023 17:40:05 GMT
Surprised to see an early Landcruiser today as I was out walking …looked pristine. worth a few bob now 👍🏻  ![]() ![]() |
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Post by firemac on Sept 8, 2023 18:57:16 GMT
Lovely old bus, Bob and they just go on forever. I’ll bet that one would attract a decent price now.
The coming new LC is very reminiscent of that oldie.👍😊
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Post by charliefarlie on Sept 9, 2023 17:09:49 GMT
Lovely old bus, Bob and they just go on forever. I’ll bet that one would attract a decent price now. The coming new LC is very reminiscent of that oldie.👍😊   |
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Post by firemac on Sept 9, 2023 17:15:09 GMT
Lovely old bus, Bob and they just go on forever. I’ll bet that one would attract a decent price now. The coming new LC is very reminiscent of that oldie.👍😊 There’s a good article in this month’s 4x4 magazine about the new LC. Apparently the first ones will be 2.8 diesels with 8-speed automatic boxes. In 2025 a hybrid is due. Should be interesting. They reckon the starting price will be somewhere around £50K. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Sept 9, 2023 17:16:43 GMT
There’s a good article in this month’s 4x4 magazine about the new LC. Apparently the first ones will be 2.8 diesels with 8-speed automatic boxes. In 2025 a hybrid is due. Should be interesting. They reckon the starting price will be somewhere around £50K. So much for Toyota not selling diesel cars in the UK then ? |
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Post by davrav on Sept 9, 2023 17:20:38 GMT
Looks like it will nicely fill the niche that the Shogun and Defender have vacated.
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Post by philip42h on Sept 9, 2023 17:21:34 GMT
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Post by firemac on Sept 9, 2023 17:32:23 GMT
There’s a good article in this month’s 4x4 magazine about the new LC. Apparently the first ones will be 2.8 diesels with 8-speed automatic boxes. In 2025 a hybrid is due. Should be interesting. They reckon the starting price will be somewhere around £50K. So much for Toyota not selling diesel cars in the UK then ? I guess the people who use these things for a living still want diesels despite what the luvvies in Westminster like to think. 🤔 |
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Post by charliefarlie on Sept 9, 2023 17:55:24 GMT
So much for Toyota not selling diesel cars in the UK then ? I guess the people who use these things for a living still want diesels despite what the luvvies in Westminster like to think. 🤔 Still a big letdown that Toyota took away the diesel RAV4 stating no more diesels in the UK. I expect better from them. Just another manufacturer that we can’t believe. |
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Post by firemac on Sept 9, 2023 18:51:22 GMT
I guess the people who use these things for a living still want diesels despite what the luvvies in Westminster like to think. 🤔 Still a big letdown that Toyota took away the diesel RAV4 stating no more diesels in the UK. I expect better from them. Just another manufacturer that we can’t believe. I have to say that bearing in mind the 2030 deadline for the sale of ICEs in the UK, I’m surprised that TOYOTA GB is importing the new LC. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Sept 9, 2023 20:06:24 GMT
Still a big letdown that Toyota took away the diesel RAV4 stating no more diesels in the UK. I expect better from them. Just another manufacturer that we can’t believe. I have to say that bearing in mind the 2030 deadline for the sale of ICEs in the UK, I’m surprised that TOYOTA GB is importing the new LC. But the 2030 deadline will never happen. I’m genuinely surprised and disappointed that Toyota have done a U turn. I’d always hoped they’d produce a more powerful perhaps bigger engined diesel RAV4 .. But they cut out early and went hybrid and clearly stated no more diesels…. Im happy to stick it out with my old diesel mainly cos it’s used to tow. The hybrids can’t cut the mustard . The current shape car I quite like now and if they’d put a diesel in then I would have a punt …. Landcruisers are of course the obvious choice but they’re just so scarce and even high mileage cars are crazy crazy money. I’m just not sure I can drop a mint 36K mile car for a bruised high miler. |
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Post by philip42h on Sept 9, 2023 21:06:09 GMT
I have to say that bearing in mind the 2030 deadline for the sale of ICEs in the UK, I’m surprised that TOYOTA GB is importing the new LC. But the 2030 deadline will never happen. I’m genuinely surprised and disappointed that Toyota have done a U turn. I’d always hoped they’d produce a more powerful perhaps bigger engined diesel RAV4 .. But they cut out early and went hybrid and clearly stated no more diesels…. Im happy to stick it out with my old diesel mainly cos it’s used to tow. The hybrids can’t cut the mustard . The current shape car I quite like now and if they’d put a diesel in then I would have a punt …. Landcruisers are of course the obvious choice but they’re just so scarce and even high mileage cars are crazy crazy money. I’m just not sure I can drop a mint 36K mile car for a bruised high miler. Toyota said no new diesel passenger cars. And whether that was a sensible policy or not, and whether we like it or not, that have stuck to that policy. The Landcruiser counts as a 4x4 off-road vehicle rather than a passenger car. The distinction may be rather moot but it's in the same category as the Hilux. |
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Post by charliefarlie on Sept 10, 2023 8:52:12 GMT
But the 2030 deadline will never happen. I’m genuinely surprised and disappointed that Toyota have done a U turn. I’d always hoped they’d produce a more powerful perhaps bigger engined diesel RAV4 .. But they cut out early and went hybrid and clearly stated no more diesels…. Im happy to stick it out with my old diesel mainly cos it’s used to tow. The hybrids can’t cut the mustard . The current shape car I quite like now and if they’d put a diesel in then I would have a punt …. Landcruisers are of course the obvious choice but they’re just so scarce and even high mileage cars are crazy crazy money. I’m just not sure I can drop a mint 36K mile car for a bruised high miler. Toyota said no new diesel passenger cars. And whether that was a sensible policy or not, and whether we like it or not, that have stuck to that policy. The Landcruiser counts as a 4x4 off-road vehicle rather than a passenger car. The distinction may be rather moot but it's in the same category as the Hilux. Phillip with respect that’s splitting hairs. Land Cruiser has 7 seats so must definitely qualify as a passenger car perhaps more so than any other car in the range, Like the range rovers and many of the big Chelsea tractors they’re more likely to be found on the school run or in areas of leisure than on farms partly because of the cost of all of this genre of car. We as you may know live rural and we don’t see LCs or RRs being driven by farmers it’s all Mitsubishi crew cabs and Hilux with the Hilux filling any gaps for commercial vehicles. And of course we still have the 3.0 or 2.8 diesel Hilux .. One other point is If Toyota are really serious about diesel pollution they wouldn’t sell any diesels either here or anywhere else on the planet or it’s kinda pointless. 👍👍 |
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Post by philip42h on Sept 10, 2023 9:30:42 GMT
Toyota said no new diesel passenger cars. And whether that was a sensible policy or not, and whether we like it or not, that have stuck to that policy. The Landcruiser counts as a 4x4 off-road vehicle rather than a passenger car. The distinction may be rather moot but it's in the same category as the Hilux. Phillip with respect that’s splitting hairs. Land Cruiser has 7 seats so must definitely qualify as a passenger car perhaps more so than any other car in the range, Like the range rovers and many of the big Chelsea tractors they’re more likely to be found on the school run or in areas of leisure than on farms partly because of the cost of all of this genre of car. We as you may know live rural and we don’t see LCs or RRs being driven by farmers it’s all Mitsubishi crew cabs and Hilux with the Hilux filling any gaps for commercial vehicles. And of course we still have the 3.0 or 2.8 diesel Hilux .. One other point is If Toyota are really serious about diesel pollution they wouldn’t sell any diesels either here or anywhere else on the planet or it’s kinda pointless. 👍👍 As I said Charlie, the point is moot ... If you look at it in terms of a vehicle to take out into the Australian outback, through a jungle or across a desert etc. the positioning of the Land Cruiser seems perfectly logical. If you look at it within the realms of idiocy that is the Chelsea tractor then the whole sector seems rather 'mad'. Toyota do make a perfectly sensible, if rather large, tow car in terms of the Highlander (2000 kg) which appeared in the UK market for a short while before being withdrawn from the order list. Maybe it didn't sell as well as they'd hoped ... ? Whether that is because of it's size or price I couldn't guess. Maybe it will reappear at some point. I struggle to understand Toyota UK's perception of the UK market but I suspect that global availability and market strength has some logical bearing on apparently illogical decisions. |
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Post by firemac on Sept 10, 2023 10:33:10 GMT
Toyota said no new diesel passenger cars. And whether that was a sensible policy or not, and whether we like it or not, that have stuck to that policy. The Landcruiser counts as a 4x4 off-road vehicle rather than a passenger car. The distinction may be rather moot but it's in the same category as the Hilux. Phillip with respect that’s splitting hairs. Land Cruiser has 7 seats so must definitely qualify as a passenger car perhaps more so than any other car in the range, Like the range rovers and many of the big Chelsea tractors they’re more likely to be found on the school run or in areas of leisure than on farms partly because of the cost of all of this genre of car. We as you may know live rural and we don’t see LCs or RRs being driven by farmers it’s all Mitsubishi crew cabs and Hilux with the Hilux filling any gaps for commercial vehicles. And of course we still have the 3.0 or 2.8 diesel Hilux .. One other point is If Toyota are really serious about diesel pollution they wouldn’t sell any diesels either here or anywhere else on the planet or it’s kinda pointless. 👍👍 Care about diesel pollution or the environment are things that are far from Toyota’s or any other manufacturers’ minds. They are in business to make money so they all build vehicles at the lowest cost and sail as close to the wind as possible in regard to all the various environmental and construction and use regulations. Their concern for the environment is zero. |
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