mikegml
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Primary Vehicle: RAV4 VVTi 2.0 3 door
Year: 2005
Fuel Type: Petrol
Transmission: Manual
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by mikegml on Jan 18, 2020 20:00:05 GMT
Anyone here added Bluetooth to their older (mine's a 2005) audio player? I mean a good one not some mickey mouse thing that plugs into the 12V. I don't want to replace it to be honest as I think it visually fits the 2005 perfectly and prefer these manual 'non-digital' type of players to the newer fancy systems. No, I'm not some technophobe I'm more than tech savvy. I fitted a real fancy Sony to my now sold Transit Connect van and it was a royal pain in the ass to use with way too much shite to plough through even to turn the thing on.
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Post by bigkev on Jan 19, 2020 7:59:56 GMT
Aaron on here who bought wife’s 3 door fitted the fool.....sorry.....FULL screen double din unit and it looks STUNNING, but like you, I prefer originalityfulness.......but that may snookerise you from doing what you wish. Hope you don’t mind......have nicked your excellent phoaty as have the same 58812 spare radio/CD unit to sell.......lol.
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Post by widge on Jan 19, 2020 8:11:30 GMT
Anyone here added Bluetooth to their older (mine's a 2005) audio player? I mean a good one not some mickey mouse thing that plugs into the 12V. I don't want to replace it to be honest as I think it visually fits the 2005 perfectly and prefer these manual 'non-digital' type of players to the newer fancy systems. No, I'm not some technophobe I'm more than tech savvy. I fitted a real fancy Sony to my now sold Transit Connect van and it was a royal pain in the ass to use with way too much shite to plough through even to turn the thing on. There are a number on eBay and amazon, but make sure you get one with the correct connector as they are not standard, another option is to go into a local car stereo fitter i am sure they can fit one for you. Dave
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Post by bigkev on Jan 19, 2020 8:18:10 GMT
.........and removal/refit of that one is dead easy.
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mikegml
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Posts: 76
Primary Vehicle: RAV4 VVTi 2.0 3 door
Year: 2005
Fuel Type: Petrol
Transmission: Manual
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by mikegml on Jan 19, 2020 12:17:38 GMT
Anyone here added Bluetooth to their older (mine's a 2005) audio player? I mean a good one not some mickey mouse thing that plugs into the 12V. I don't want to replace it to be honest as I think it visually fits the 2005 perfectly and prefer these manual 'non-digital' type of players to the newer fancy systems. No, I'm not some technophobe I'm more than tech savvy. I fitted a real fancy Sony to my now sold Transit Connect van and it was a royal pain in the ass to use with way too much shite to plough through even to turn the thing on. There are a number on eBay and amazon, but make sure you get one with the correct connector as they are not standard, another option is to go into a local car stereo fitter i am sure they can fit one for you. Dave You mean there is the same model available 'with' bluetooth?
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Post by widge on Jan 19, 2020 12:41:42 GMT
There are a number on eBay and amazon, but make sure you get one with the correct connector as they are not standard, another option is to go into a local car stereo fitter i am sure they can fit one for you. Dave You mean there is the same model available 'with' bluetooth? No Sorry, Bluetooth adapters that will plug into the back of your existing unit.
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mikegml
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Posts: 76
Primary Vehicle: RAV4 VVTi 2.0 3 door
Year: 2005
Fuel Type: Petrol
Transmission: Manual
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by mikegml on Jan 19, 2020 15:10:45 GMT
Yeah, I've seen a few different types. I'll check 'em out
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Post by Ravasher on Jan 20, 2020 7:38:35 GMT
Not sure about Bluetooth adaptors but you can get an Aux cable that will connect to your phone via the headphone socket. I had a pioneer unit fitted in ours and it fitted perfectly. We were able to buy to small fillers for either side of the unit. I don’t have a clue when it comes to cars but was able to do it myself
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Post by widge on Jan 20, 2020 9:00:29 GMT
Not sure about Bluetooth adaptors but you can get an Aux cable that will connect to your phone via the headphone socket. I had a pioneer unit fitted in ours and it fitted perfectly. We were able to buy to small fillers for either side of the unit. I don’t have a clue when it comes to cars but was able to do it myself Unfortunately this head unit does not have an input on the front, so you still need to get some type of adapter to plug into the rear of the unit to create an AUX in, a slightly cheaper option than one with bluetooth but an adapter none the less.
Dave
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Post by shcm on Jan 20, 2020 9:19:14 GMT
The usual way for that vintage of head unit is for an adapter to emulate a CD changer. i.e. the aux/bluetooth/whatever adapter will appear like a CD changer to the head unit (You'll get something like CD 1 track 1 appear on the display). The adapter will route audio from bluetooth (or aux or whatever) into the CD changer input (actually called avclan) on the rear of the head unit. It's not a simple audio input, you need some data communications with it, which the adapter will provide. It's usually via a standard (for Toyota) 12 pin connector. There was a change over from a larger to a smaller connector around the time of that particular head unit. Connectors(s): - Typical adapter: gromaudio.com/store/usb_adapters/toyota-lexus-98-05-usb-android-iphone-car-integration-adapter-kit.htmlsimpler/cheap adapters are available or even build yourself designs, if you have the electronic skills.
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Post by widge on Jan 20, 2020 9:38:00 GMT
Not sure about Bluetooth adaptors but you can get an Aux cable that will connect to your phone via the headphone socket. I had a pioneer unit fitted in ours and it fitted perfectly. We were able to buy to small fillers for either side of the unit. I don’t have a clue when it comes to cars but was able to do it myself Unfortunately this head unit does not have an input on the front, so you still need to get some type of adapter to plug into the rear of the unit to create an AUX in, a slightly cheaper option than one with bluetooth but an adapter none the less.
Dave
In theory one of these should work if you only want an AUX in and to be able to play MP3 tracks from a USB key, I say in theory as I bought one a couple of years ago but unfortunately ordered the one with the 6x6 connector in error and no amount of fiddling with adapter cables made it work, I might have another go and try replacing the plug with the correct one when I have some time, it is just a bit fiddly trying to test things while sat in the car with the radio hanging out of the dashboard.
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Post by bigkev on Jan 20, 2020 13:06:13 GMT
The usual way for that vintage of head unit is for an adapter to emulate a CD changer. i.e. the aux/bluetooth/whatever adapter will appear like a CD changer to the head unit (You'll get something like CD 1 track 1 appear on the display). The adapter will route audio from bluetooth (or aux or whatever) into the CD changer input (actually called avclan) on the rear of the head unit. It's not a simple audio input, you need some data communications with it, which the adapter will provide. It's usually via a standard (for Toyota) 12 pin connector. There was a change over from a larger to a smaller connector around the time of that particular head unit. Connectors(s): - Typical adapter: gromaudio.com/store/usb_adapters/toyota-lexus-98-05-usb-android-iphone-car-integration-adapter-kit.htmlsimpler/cheap adapters are available or even build yourself designs, if you have the electronic skills. Mike’s avclan input already has a 6 CD changer unit in it, Andy, being a Granite model.......since he has to burn some CDs to use, could mibeez disconnect changer and carry oot yer instructments.....?
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Post by shcm on Jan 20, 2020 14:26:24 GMT
Yes Kev, simple answer, if there's a CD changer attached, it will most likely have to be unplugged and any third party adapter plugged in the changer's place.
More complex answer -
Every avclan component has an address (or ID). Actually, it's more like two - a unit (headunit, changer etc) address and a "sub address" for "functions" (radio,tape,cd etc). Assuming one address (or ID) is good enough for purposes here, though.
So, in theory you can hang more than just a CD changer off the connector @ the back (the avclan). If the aux/bluetooth adapter is emulating a CD changer though, it will use the same address as a CD changer and if both CD changer and adapter are on the bus together, you'll get a conflict. So its likely one has to go.
Having said that, if I remember correctly, there are at least 2 addresses allocated for CD players and possibly one for the old minidisc. If the aux/adapter uses the alternative CD or minidisk ID, they may all play nicely together. I think I may have in the past, seen aux/bluetooth units with configurable addresses via dip switches, but it's a number of years since I messed around with this stuff, so it may be my mind playing tricks. It also depends on the firmware in the headunit - i.e. what addresses it recognises and acts on.
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mikegml
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Posts: 76
Primary Vehicle: RAV4 VVTi 2.0 3 door
Year: 2005
Fuel Type: Petrol
Transmission: Manual
Drive Type: 4WD/AWD
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Post by mikegml on Jan 20, 2020 20:06:04 GMT
Thanks for the replies guys.
I've also seen a few youtube videos and the more I look into it the more it looks like (I also want to keep the steering wheel controls) I'd be better just getting a new unit.
Make one mistake getting the wrong bit of tech' and I might end up with some half baked mess, so I think I'm gonna knock this one on the head. Cheers again.
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Post by Hoovie on Jan 20, 2020 22:23:22 GMT
The Head Unit you have is pretty limited and if you want to stay fully OEM then you can't do a lot with it. If you want to have Bluetooth for the phone without a seperate box that goes between the head unit and the speakers, and you also want to keep the steering wheel controls, I would suggest an aftermarket head unit. If you want to keep the OEM look, then there are "look-a-likes" aka "Chinese Radios" that fit in the same space that the current unit has and uses the same connectors, so the steering wheel controls will still operate This is the radio I fitted to my 2004 RAV4 3 Door Head Unit by David, on Flickr As well as hands free you also get Sat Nav as well as video playback Video by David, on Flickr and Reversing Camera capability Camera by David, on Flickr Another option is get a standard 2-Din Head Unit not specifically designed for the RAV4.2, such as the Kenwood Unit below that I fitted in my 2005 RAV4.2 5-Door Kenwood by David, on Flickr Units like this needs little side-fillets as they are 2-Din and the RAV4.2 has an unusual "2-Din Wide" fitting. Overall, I think I would go the "Chinese" Route as it looks standard, has good features and are cheap for what you get (although if you are a bit of an Audiophile, you can hear that the sound quality is not as good as a unit like a Kenwood, Pioneer or Alpine). FWIW, the features argument meant I replaced the Pioneer Head Unit in my Camper with a Chinese Android Headunit as to get the features I wanted in a unit of Alpine quality would put in into 4 figures - the Chinese Jobby was around £200. IMG_20190914_183624 by David, on Flickr
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